Updates updates updates...

[Nazeroth]

I\'d just like to point out that us poor 56k\'ers have to put up with one big update every so often, and although i havent been playing this game long enough (3 or so days at the time of writing this) to go through an update i DO hope it isn\'t downloaded through that primitive update program since it has no resume function.
Why can\'t there just be lots of small updates? Maybe for every fix you devs make, i mean its EASYER to do it this way since not only will you have more happy 56k\'ers but you will have more people in general because bugs and problems will get fixed quicker! I see no disadvantages doing it this way.

Also on the subject of updating, how about someone make a little program in visual basic to download the updates and i\'m not perticularlly talking to the devs here, im sure one of you guys r a fairly good programer.

[acraig]

I\'m sure that we will do this in the future.  But at the moment it is hard to do for a couple of reasons.  The biggest one is that we are changing things a LOT at the moment.  Much of this is under the hood though so you would not notice many changes.  So with these big changes things break and we have to try to fix them. Its not a matter of just \'adding\' some thing to the game and having it work.  

Second we have no real \'formula\' for building the updated components yet.  Since we change things almost everyday then people would have to update every day and there is no guarentee that everything would still work.

Again, I strongly believe that we will do updates more often in the future but at the moment it is not time effective for us to do so.

[Nazeroth]

ah so ure still messin with the engine and mechanics of the game? *sighs* i guess thats good enough reason, we 56k\'ers will be forever doomed to download big things from everywhere lol

[Drilixer]

Originally posted by Nazeroth
ah so ure still messin with the engine and mechanics of the game?

hehe Nazaroth do you realize that the engine is being built at the same time as the game?  They are two seperate projects... but neither of them is near completeion yet.  In it\'s \'final version\' (whatever that means) Planeshift\'s graphics should be very different from what they are today.

[Nazeroth]

lol thats news to me, i guess that puts a whole different perspective on things...but y would u create a game on an engine thats not even near completion?

[Kundalf]

both the game (planeshift) and the engine (crystalspace) are open source projects. They will never be completed. That doesn\'t mean they aren\'t usable or worth less than other \"completed\" software.

If I recall it correctly Jorrit started with CS in 1995. After several years of work it has reached a stage now, where it is perfectly usable as you can see on planeshift.  In a few months hopefully PS will also have reached a stage, where it can be called a mmorpg. It won\'t be finished then, either. Further improvements can always be made. Be it by adding more contence to it, to fix bugs or to modify it for recent hardware.

If you talk about completion: Not even commercial engines are ever complete. But these Produkts have a deadline, where they have to be finished. Oftenly they still include major bugs and glitches, that have to be fixed in patches long times after the product has been released. Many glitches only have workarounds in this software and are never really fixed.

So that these project are \"not even near completion\" in my eyes is a sign of quality of open source software and doesn\'t mean its worthless or pointless or something...

[Jefka]

exactly...forever improving is a good concept, and the devs will imrpove themselves as time goes by