\"I am now sick of freeBSD and all open source that I have tried.\"
\"I have been a programmer for 5 years and have never had this much trouble with anything!\"
\"I am thinking that after about 10 years I will finally be able to get around in freeBSD but until then I will be stuck with the monopolizing monster Mr. Bill Gates. =(\"
Um, if it\'s okay with the moderators, I\'d like to plug my project DLIP. I would have to agree, Planeshift and its components are amazingly hard to build. I was only able to build from CVS when I used an ancient version of CEL. I could never get the precompiled binaries to do more than flash the startup screen briefly. The released source seems to work fine in Red Hat 8.0 and Gentoo 1.4, but it triggers a few of the (Red Hat ignored) bugs in Red Hat 9, and it seems to be extremely difficult to build on other systems.
Anyone here been able to get it to work in Slackware? I\'ve been asked by a few Vector guys.
Linux is Linux, right? Shouldn\'t it basically be standard? Well, it is. I just installed Red Hat 8.0 on a customer\'s Compaq laptop, and since the Red Hat installer couldn\'t do it, I just installed Gentoo\'s kernel and RPM and forcibly installed all the RPMs from the Red Hat CD. It worked, so we know that the standards *do* apply.
My project DLIP will, among other things, be able to automate the building of projects much better than even apt. If there are quirks to making it work, they\'ll be written into the .dlip file. The user won\'t need to read the instructions for this setup and that setup. Let one person succeed in building it once, and let everyone else use that.
More importantly, DLIP will make
all open source super easy. It will index all libraries and programs with download URLs, installation scripts, menu listings, command-line options, dependencies, conflicts, executor applications, chat and game mirrors, full descriptions, and more. It will surely take less than 10 years. I\'m thinking that, with the 3 devs we have now, DLIP will take less than a year to totally eviscerate Microsoft. I mean, completely and utterly. Imagine being able to install *any* open source software on *any* OS! Sure it\'s possible to do now, but it generally requires such extreme steps that it\'s not realistic to build most software this way. However, imagine just clicking that you want the program and letting it build it for your system. Imagine a system that can have ALL versions of GCC and just flop around as needed without messing with the one in your path.
I hope the Planeshift team doesn\'t mind this post. If it\'s unkosher, feel free to delete it. I wouldn\'t mind losing this post, but I sure don\'t wanna break any rules. Planeshift will be one of the first to benefit from DLIP, as can even handle all the subtle nuances of CVS.
My point? If you\'ve been a programmer for 5 years, then Planeshift -or- DLIP would be very happy if you can lend a hand. (This is, of course, where I don\'t know if this post is improper. I don\'t know if I\'m mooching developers.) In any case, don\'t give up on open source. A decade ago, people stuck with it for the principle of it. Over the past few years, many people have stuck with it, even buying new hardware that is Linux compatible so that they can be part of the open source world. They stuck with it, and now Linux is easy! I didn\'t know anything about Linux when I first used it, but in a few days, I was done with Windows forever. Stick with it, as is inevitably the way of the future.
I think that there\'s about a 30% chance that Microsoft has made its last profitable OS. Longhorn is marketed on its security. Microsoft has never had security. They *should* market Longhorn on its convenience, which is MS\'s last refuge. With DLIP in place, customers will not only have a more convenient way to install software, they will be able to stay up to date more easily, not pay for the software, and not pay for the OS all while protected by the fact that the software is not proprietary.
FreeBSD, tho..... ;-) I like FBSD and have 5.1 as well. It\'s nice to have a real Unix when I need it. But when I first dove into the free OS world, my first shot was FreeBSD, as I had seen more news of it than anything else. That\'s not just jumping in the deep end, that\'s jumping in the deep end with concrete boots! I made it out, but oh man, it\'s just not right for the purpose of convenience and simplicity. BTW, thank U very much, elec, for the info! I may try it (or just keep it for DLIP. ;-)
My project, which has been on hiatus for the last couple weeks since I\'m tearing my house to shreds, is located at
http://dlip.sourceforge.net. We\'re just about done with stage 1 of the 3 stage plan:
Stage 1: Create and finalize the DLIP standard. (Lock it up.)
Stage 2: Create and finalize the base DLIP software.
Stage 3: Create and maintain the main.dlip database file and all updates.
My developers are just itching to start coding! I am so close to ready, and all I need is for some developers to look at the DLIP specs and tell me what they would like to see. Want some program characteristics added? Want some search functions? More functions? Do you see a problem with it? Specifications are in text format and can be downloaded from the files area or from
here for ZIP or
here for .tar.gz.
