PLANESHIFT Council - Very Important!

[Annah]

PLANESHIFT is an Online Role Playing Game that fully supports GUILDS. And means a world where hundreds of guilds have their own goals and are doing only what they want, respecting only their rules? Chaos!
That?s why it should be done a Council that will respond in front of all PLANESHIFT GUILDS.
We have to choose between two names for this ? PLANESHIFT COUNCIL or PLANESHIFT SENATE ? or Yliakum Council / Yliakum Senate. A vote will be done.
The Council will be formed by ten guilds from the PS realm, guilds that earned their respect on these realms.
There will be five OLD guilds and five NEW guilds. They will create laws, make a tax system, organize or take care of other guilds. I think something like this is in Master of Orion III ? there is called Orion Senate.
These are the guilds that will represent all of us (based on Kada EL?s Tavern):

(LIST IN CONSTRUCTION ? we have to check all guilds. I only can tell you four guilds that will sure be in the council ? Arcane Order, Black Order, Circle of Legends and Mirth)

The Council will have a leader. Each guild from the Council can be one; they only have to win the votes (a vote system will be made). A leader can stay only for 4 months (real months), after that another votes will come (a guild can stay as much as they can at the leadership; they only have to win the votes).
Factions can?t be in the council. They will contribute only with their members that are in a guild that is in the council.

I am waiting your replies to support this idea. I will talk with Luca and I will promise you I will make it official. I want that all new guilds to post here to prove themselves that they can be part of the Council. I have more ideas, but I they will be known after this will be official.

Bye.

(And please forget about enemies, allies or personal revenges ? at least on this post ? heard that Wolfmane?)

Annah

[Wolfmane]

Hi Annah,

Congratulations! I think this is a good initiative, very constructive. Let us talk about the idea more.

Personally I\'m not sure whether we should have ten guilds only and keep others out. My suggestion would be that we either make it possible for more guilds to join once they meet certain criteria, for example 10 proven members that are active etc.

Another way of doing it would be to let each Guild propose one member to the Senate and then to have an official vote on PS forums to get the 10 members selected. A vote could be held every 4 - 6 months.

Thirdly I think the Senate\'s first task should be to work out a Guild Code of Conduct that all guilds will be invited to sign. That will give the Senate some \"teeth\" if a guild(s) fail to uyphold the rules of the Code of Conduct which they have signed.

Come on everybody, let us brainstorm this!

[Drilixer]

Speaking as a member of the Arcane Order here - the council should also create a process with which to bring new guilds into the council.  Of course there will be requirements that will have to be agreed upon, but I think one of which should be a strong roleplaying initiative within each new guild

[Avenger]

You say about Master of Orion III, but not much. You didn\'t tell that votes of races in there wasn\'t equal. The were equal to population of that race. I think it\'s very good thing. We can do that but not population of Race , but how many active members the guild have.

PS. All guilds will have their seat in that senate

[Wolfmane]

Personally I\'m not sure whether we should have ten guilds only and keep others out. My suggestion would be that we either make it possible for more guilds to join once they meet certain criteria, for example 10 proven members that are active etc.

We should propably expand this idea Drilixer. I believe all guilds that meet certain criteria should be represented. Maybe in a General assembly with one vote each. Then this assembly votes for 10 members that is the Senate.

[Annah]

Very good ideas Wolfmane. I am happy we finally finished with the threats
 But I have to say it won\'t be a wise idea to have many guilds in the Council ... at least not at the start.
  The subject is still open ... share your ideas.

[Drilixer]

I say the strong guilds now should get together and be permanent members - much like the United States, France, Russia, China and (who is the other one lol) in the UN

Then others can be added on as we go - the others will have to meet whatever criteria the founders decide on

Edit: hehe I\'m seeing alot of similarities to the UN here... so up cmes the question... what will joining this council do for a guild?  What do you expect the council to deal with?  Why should we create the council?  Is it\'s primary goal to \'build peace\' like the real UN?

[Annah]

Yes ... Drilixer ... I think we should be united
  And about that what should we do ... etc. , that\'s why we are all here

[Drilixer]

as the \'thinker\' behind this thing I\'m just wondering what you think we would be united against?

[Evanchild]

united against crappy \"headstrong\" guilds who plan on taking to much land and such.  probibly to hold peace.  I would like fo the Gnomes to represent the merchants of ps.  although we are few in numbers we will soon grow.

[Zephyrus]

hmmm very interesting idea...

Just have to hope the council dont do as much futile bickering as the real UN...

[Evanchild]

tehehe.  like treebeard people i can\'t remember there race it starts with a u i think.  they take like 3 hours to decide the hobbits are not orcs.

[Zephyrus]

Tree-Ents any self respecting gamer, roleplayer, and Tolkien fan should know that... NOW GET BACK ON TOPIC!

[Annah]

Ok ... why do you guys think only at war? We will create trading routes and things related to trading (trader) guilds ...
  We really can do everything. Think a little, like in the real life. And so far, I really thank Arcane Order for the support, esspecially Wolfmane.

[Kiern]

Well, if it gets worked out it will be good I think.  But then again there will be the problems like the others have pointed out, there will be constent disagreements which may lead to arguments and alliances against others in the same thing.  So in other words it would take a great leader and guild representitives working hard to keep things together.

Now me, I love that kind of stuff (In fact I was planning on setting something up sort of like it for non-guilds, so we could become official), but others really can\'t handle it...so as long as the right people are doing the right jobs and work hard at it, it might end up being great.

EDIT: I would also like to point out that the instability of guilds at this point will be a problem