Defenders

[seperot]

Originally posted by Auran
In the wise words of some dude-

\"Confusion is the best subterfuge\"  

Since (supposedly)you know us so well i\'ll tell you something and lets see how you interpret it.

\"Yes the Cabal is overconfident and pompous. All the guild members are just me by different names. We aren\'t going to be active at all in the game. I just do this for fun and false glory.\"

Now tell me what you make of it .......especially you Draklar and you Sep. Do you believe us? More importantly: Can you afford to???

*evil lauhgter* Ha!ha!ha!ha!............etc..

yes your overconfiednt not not all members are you you are active ingame but all little girls who cant show them selfs and you do it for fun and glory hows that for trasation

[Moogie]

Originally posted by Auran
Given the situation you cannot deny that if someone wants to play an evil character he/she has a right to do so.

Everyone has a right to play however they see fit, within the boundaries of game rules. Of course, that makes complete sense. However, everyone else has a right to have fun playing the game. If a few people spoil the fun of any newbies they come across, this can drastically threaten the future popularity of the game, and is not something that should/would be acceptable.

[Auran]

Sheesh! Take the sissy coloured glasses off ppl. All gamers want challenges even new ones.

For example

Lets say Game X has first five stages where new players do nothing but learn the ropes of the game and take Happyhappyjoyjoy dance lessons from our resident ballerina Caldazar . Do you think anyone would play it?

Look at half-life on the contrary. It became a legend because the aliens try to kill you right from the start. Anyhow I am not one to carry on arguments, and moreover moogie seems to want it and I can\'t say no to her. So i\'ll suggest a compromise. Not here but in the new Cabal thread thats due soon. Plz read and give your vote.

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Auran
All gamers want challenges even new ones.

What makes you think that newbies want to be attacked by characters that they don\'t stand a chance against?

[Reydan]

By the way, it\'s funny, but from what I understood, reading all those wishlist posts, people don\'t want free pk in PS.  So I quess, devs won\'t make it like in UO: there pkillers can kill u everywhere, but u guys already know that.
Probably, devs will limit PK to certain areas, and will allow duels, if both sides agree on that...
So I don\'t see a way, how jerks can kill newbies...
They can try to kill us, knights, but it won\'t be so easy, right

[seperot]

I whould love a 1 on 1 dule with auran (if he is not afraid to show himself)  

[Moogie]

Originally posted by Auran
Look at half-life on the contrary. It became a legend because the aliens try to kill you right from the start. Anyhow I am not one to carry on arguments, and moreover moogie seems to want it and I can\'t say no to her. So i\'ll suggest a compromise. Not here but in the new Cabal thread thats due soon. Plz read and give your vote.

*shrug* Well if people want that kind of game, they should play Half Life.

[Monketh]

Originally posted by Auran
Sheesh! Take the sissy coloured glasses off ppl. All gamers want challenges even new ones.

For example

Lets say Game X has first five stages where new players do nothing but learn the ropes of the game and take Happyhappyjoyjoy dance lessons from our resident ballerina Caldazar . Do you think anyone would play it?

Look at half-life on the contrary. It became a legend because the aliens try to kill you right from the start. Anyhow I am not one to carry on arguments, and moreover moogie seems to want it and I can\'t say no to her. So i\'ll suggest a compromise. Not here but in the new Cabal thread thats due soon. Plz read and give your vote.

Just remember Auran, if you go overboard on your newb harrassing and make too many ppl miserable your guild and all it\'s members might be banned from PS to ensure a good expierience (sp*).  The DEV\'s reserve that right.  

Also, how are you immune from infiltrators yourself?


Enough OT already, one response (again, sp*) from Auran and the others each will be enough.

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Auran
So if someone is willing to take all the public hatred and opposition onto himself to add a zest to the game you should thank them rather than scorn them.

hehe... that doesn\'t make sense
I should thank you for making me hate you?
weird...

anyways...
some people think that i shouldn\'t stand against Cabal guild, coz if not for them, Defenders wouldn\'t have anything to do... that\'s foolish thing to say, and here i show why:
First of all Cabal isn\'t only evil guild, and surely there will be new ones in future. Furthermore those guilds could easly be stronger than Cabal, and make bigger danger for my guild.
Example:
2 evil guilds are formed:
dark knights: they are evil warriors with high sense of honour. They aren\'t accepted by society though. So their goal is to show greatness of the dark side, therefore corrupting warriors they meet.
warriors: proud and brave warriors who want to gain as much power as possible. They love to fight and show their strenght. They show their right by winning wars. If someone will stand in their way, he\'ll die by their steels.

Those guilds might make an alliance:
warriors will help knights in showing power and magnificence of the dark path, while knights would be great ally for warriors in their guildwars.

Let\'s add evil-mage guild and maybe some spying guild, and if someone will say it wouldn\'t be much greater threat than Cabal, here\'s my answer: fool!

[Reydan]

I quess, that\'s the point, where peeps should stop arguing with Draklar, \'cos he doesn\'t understand the fun of eternal fighting with evil, he doesn\'t understand the fun of battle...

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Reydan
I quess, that\'s the point, where peeps should stop arguing with Draklar, \'cos he doesn\'t understand the fun of eternal fighting with evil, he doesn\'t understand the fun of battle...

WHAT???
i just showed you way that there could be greater threat than Cabal and you still saying that???
Battles?
Cabal wants to destroy guilds from within, that\'s not battle-like, is it?

[Xordan]

The Cabal might like to destroy from within, but our allies don\'t.  

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Xordan
The Cabal might like to destroy from within, but our allies don\'t.  

what allies? you want to destroy ALL guilds, remember?

[Moogie]

I must admit, although I\'ve talked alot about them on this thread myself, this is getting silly. Must every new guild thread become a Cabal discussion?

They already have 3 of their own on the very first page of this forum. It\'d be best if people could try to limit Cabal disputes/topics to the newest one of those in future, wherever possible.

If however Draklar doesn\'t mind the current topic being continued here, then that\'s fine also. So, it\'s up to you Drakkie. But for future threads, I\'d prefer it if Cabal discussions stayed in their own place.

Thanks

[Reydan]

Draklar, from what I\'ve learned, being in your guild, is that u\'re not intend to fight against other players,even against evil. that\'s why I think, that u don\'t understand the fun of virtual battle...
(not real battle, \'cos in real battle there are no fun, only death and pain)