Cabal War

[Jessyn]

well drak, that also is a possiblility, i bet it\'s the mirth guild, they\'re really the evil ones that will strike while we are laughing at the cabal.(Yes, i realy am that paranoid)

Jessyn

[Dameon]

Not cool. Leave the Mirthful men alone

[Savion]

Originally posted by Jessyn
well drak, that also is a possiblility, i bet it\'s the mirth guild, they\'re really the evil ones that will strike while we are laughing at the cabal.(Yes, i realy am that paranoid)

Jessyn

Well, don\'t go putting your fear in the wrong place. Keep it where it belongs.  The Cabal shall rule all with the chains of Fear and the grasp of tyrany.

[Draklar]

Like anyone should fear guild that accepts any newbie that wants to join them :rolleyes:

[Savion]

IT is not the people who join and leave that should be worried about. Worry about the ones that mean buisness. Underestimating again... tisk tisk tisk

[dorbian]

like the cabal i think you can easily create a character enter the guild spy a bit and give the info to others.

make a test or something like get me 400 mugs and ur in

[Davis]

Originally posted by Jessyn
well drak, that also is a possiblility, i bet it\'s the mirth guild, they\'re really the evil ones that will strike while we are laughing at the cabal.(Yes, i realy am that paranoid)

Jessyn

 ;(
We\'ve been around for like, a long time. Before the Cabal.
What did we ever do?
You made me sad, Jessyn.  X(

[Xordan]

I\'m sure we\'ll tell a newbie all our plans..... Why don\'t u join and find out what u can learn?

[Savion]

Of course you do... I know EVERY SINGLE thing that the Cabal do...

notice the heavy sarcasm in my voice... er typing... uh ya.

[Auran]

Don\'t worry about The cabal ppl. Here Everyone knows what they should know;). Not a bit more nor less.

[Draklar]

ok, i was wondering about that thing for some time:
Are you Cabals considering yourselfs as ones staying in Yliakum realm?
I mean Cabal is guild kept out of roleplaying. I point out the spying. You guys want to destroy guilds from within by placing there fake accounts. Not only that has nothing to do with roleplaying, but also is pretty much cheating. Your spying is fully based on player skills, that\'s clearly against roleplaying, no? Devs don\'t want player skills influencing stuff too much. Furthermore they don\'t want free pvp, which ruins first concept of your guild. Don\'t try to change it by rebelling or something... if you don\'t like the way it is so much, just leave. This is especially to Auran: how can you say you are nice in real life, while cheating thanks to thing that game is free? And don\'t say forums would be boring without you - Currently PS is in pre-alpha stage, so it\'s pretty obvious that there isn\'t much talking on guilds threads. This might change soon, when CB will come out.

[Adrift]

Originally posted by Draklar
ok, i was wondering about that thing for some time:
Are you Cabals considering yourselfs as ones staying in Yliakum realm?

Umm... yes? ?(

Originally posted by Draklar
I mean Cabal is guild kept out of roleplaying. I point out the spying. You guys want to destroy guilds from within by placing there fake accounts. Not only that has nothing to do with roleplaying, but also is pretty much cheating.

Our aim is not to destroy anything. It\'s to take them over, gain control. Fake accounts are needed in games such as this where real-life things simply arn\'t possible. In these cases where you cannot just change your name, wear different clothes, change your hairstyle and get a new identity and still be the same person, you have no other choice but to improvise. Creating a new character is the only way to achieve this, and results in exactly the same thing as if you were to spy in the real world-- your body and name look different, but underneath, you are still the same person. This is cheating? We\'ll let the devs decide that.

Originally posted by Draklar
 Your spying is fully based on player skills, that\'s clearly against roleplaying, no?

Roleplaying is all about being in a role and convincing people of who you are, make them believe that you live in this world. Spying is the ultimate roleplay challenge in that you must manage both your \'original\' roleplay identity/alias aswell as become someone completely different to disguise yourself perfectly as a spy. I really don\'t think I do a good job of this... but nobody\'s said anything to \'me\' yet so I can\'t be too bad at it.

Originally posted by Draklar
 Devs don\'t want player skills influencing stuff too much. Furthermore they don\'t want free pvp, which ruins first concept of your guild.

Nah it doesn\'t. Like I said our goal is not to kill stuff.

Originally posted by Draklar
 Don\'t try to change it by rebelling or something... if you don\'t like the way it is so much, just leave.

I don\'t think we are the people who don\'t enjoy this. If you don\'t like it, on the other hand, please take your own advice.

Originally posted by Draklar
 This is especially to Auran: how can you say you are nice in real life, while cheating thanks to thing that game is free? And don\'t say forums would be boring without you - Currently PS is in pre-alpha stage, so it\'s pretty obvious that there isn\'t much talking on guilds threads. This might change soon, when CB will come out.

Auran is nice in real life, he just likes messing with people\'s easily influenced minds. And by the way, no matter what excuse you place for the reason why the forums are boring, it is still a FACT that the forums would be much less interesting without a Cabal presence. So NYA! woot for such a long post.

[Xordan]

ok, I\'ve been thinking this for some time:

U suck pretty much. Our spies don\'t need multiple accounts. Although they could be useful now u mention it. But u\'r not smart enough to work out how we do it are you? All our spies are fully based on roleplay. And no, I\'m not going to tell u all our plans just because u keep bugging us.
Why do we need free PVP? We\'re not a warrior guild or anything. It\'s 2 our advantage that the game isn\'t full PVP. Actually, your the ones who are talking about slicing us to death when CB comes out. Your the ones who want the full PVP. If u don\'t like the fact that u can\'t kill us then u can leave.

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Adrift

Originally posted by Draklar
I mean Cabal is guild kept out of roleplaying. I point out the spying. You guys want to destroy guilds from within by placing there fake accounts. Not only that has nothing to do with roleplaying, but also is pretty much cheating.

Our aim is not to destroy anything. It\'s to take them over, gain control. Fake accounts are needed in games such as this where real-life things simply arn\'t possible. In these cases where you cannot just change your name, wear different clothes, change your hairstyle and get a new identity and still be the same person, you have no other choice but to improvise. Creating a new character is the only way to achieve this, and results in exactly the same thing as if you were to spy in the real world-- your body and name look different, but underneath, you are still the same person. This is cheating? We\'ll let the devs decide that.

oops... heh, sorry yea, you just want to take over, but... well... i wouldn\'t make that mistake if you guys wouldn\'t change stuff every few days
nice bunch of excuses... but how do you know spies won\'t be able to do that?

Originally posted by Adrift

Originally posted by Draklar
Your spying is fully based on player skills, that\'s clearly against roleplaying, no?

Roleplaying is all about being in a role and convincing people of who you are, make them believe that you live in this world. Spying is the ultimate roleplay challenge in that you must manage both your \'original\' roleplay identity/alias aswell as become someone completely different to disguise yourself perfectly as a spy. I really don\'t think I do a good job of this... but nobody\'s said anything to \'me\' yet so I can\'t be too bad at it.

so what about let\'s say archers... make Quake from PS or something? I mean if one profession can be based fully on player skills, then why can\'t another?
And you can change personality in-character, why making new char?

Originally posted by Adrift

Originally posted by Draklar
 Devs don\'t want player skills influencing stuff too much. Furthermore they don\'t want free pvp, which ruins first concept of your guild.

Nah it doesn\'t. Like I said our goal is not to kill stuff.

i said first didn\'t i? If you\'d know a bit more about your guild, you\'d know that in the beginning Cabal wasn\'t supposed to take control over other guilds, but kill people like newbies whenever it was possible.

Originally posted by Adrift

Originally posted by Draklar
 Don\'t try to change it by rebelling or something... if you don\'t like the way it is so much, just leave.

I don\'t think we are the people who don\'t enjoy this. If you don\'t like it, on the other hand, please take your own advice.

again, i know about it a bit more than you, like i remember Auran argueing with me about no free pvp

Originally posted by Adrift

Originally posted by Draklar
 This is especially to Auran: how can you say you are nice in real life, while cheating thanks to thing that game is free? And don\'t say forums would be boring without you - Currently PS is in pre-alpha stage, so it\'s pretty obvious that there isn\'t much talking on guilds threads. This might change soon, when CB will come out.

Auran is nice in real life, he just likes messing with people\'s easily influenced minds. And by the way, no matter what excuse you place for the reason why the forums are boring, it is still a FACT that the forums would be much less interesting without a Cabal presence. So NYA! woot for such a long post.

ok, that wasn\'t answer to how can he cheat if he\'s nice guy

uhh Xordan...
pvp: read what i said above
Actually i\'m the one that says Cabal is a waste of time... what\'s your point?
you can\'t not-fake and spy for now. You see in real-life there still are things like your apparence, which won\'t allow you to change completely, if you are annoying to other people making yourself well known, and then try to change how you look like, still some will recognise you because they know how you look like very well. In here you just make new account (with other name) and no one knows you. So considering you guys are spying, and spying isn\'t implemented yet, you simply cheat...
you suck

[Yarulion]

I think what she means is that in RL you change your main identifier (your appearance) and then you try to keep all the little things hidden.

In game, you change your main identifier (your name) and then you try to keep the little things like how you type, how you tend to respond to things, what your \"hot buttons\" are, hidden.

Face it, man. You couldn\'t very well walk up to the Cabal and be an effective spy in their guild as long as the first thing they see is the name Draklar