Tax us baby.

[Kuiper7986]

I think there should be a tax for buying stuff from a market or store and selling stuff to a market or store. You should pay monthly tax for owning a house or living area. You should be taxed for crossing borders to different terroritories. You should be taxed for riding an animal. You should pay a monthly tax for owning a guild. Taxes should vary between terroritories.

Tax, tax, tax; tax is a good thing. There should be taxation to keep money flowing from place to place. It prevents rich people from monopolizing everything and it reduces prices of items from a market or store. Taxes help expand cities by adding new buildings or nicer looking areas. ALso lets say the Devs made an event that a horde of monsters was going to attack the city your in. Then the amount of tax money our city has is how many NPC soldiers the city can hire to make our lives easier.

Opinions would be nice, even if you pissed off at the idea, I wanna hear them.

[kronon]

I could imagine dominating fractions would demand tax on entering city\'s and stuf for there \"service\".

[Nikech]

Originally posted by kronon
I could imagine dominating fractions would demand tax on entering city\'s and stuf for there \"service\".

I agree with you, but NO monthly taxes for owning a house or a guild. What if you\'re gone on a holiday for a month or two or have some other reason not to be able to play, you\'d lose all your many to taxes.

[Xordan]

I would refuse to pay any tax, and kill anyone who tryed to make me pay it. Tax is one of the more unpleasent things in life, I don\'t want it to be in planeshift as well.

[Caldazar]

No taxes. People blackmailing each other, that\'s another story.

[Half_Pint]

For once - I can\'t believe I\'m saying this - I agree with Xordan.  I will not pay any taxes to the government (except maybe when entering or leaving a city).  The guilds will most likely all be charging taxes on their member anyway, so government taxes would make it even harder for people.

And Kuiper, why are you asking for taxes?!

[Vengeance]

How European of you, Kuiper... ;-)

[paxx]

I?m not in favor of townships taxing people to enter the city, but sales rights (open up a shop) and buildings will need a tax, grounds fee, maintenance fee ?..of some type.

If not the place will be littered with empty shells of old guild houses as guilds fold, or as they become irrelevant. Prime locations will be littered with hovel guildhouses when major guilds want to move in.

With this concept, I would have no problem with guilds having some way to tax their members to get these fees?how, I would like enough of these options to be left to guilds that it is an issue for guilds to figure out how they do it.

Just my point of view.

[Wedge]

Fees for owning player buildings is a given.  But taxes in general don\'t do much good, since I don\'t think NPCs have much use for money.  Of course theoretically they could be made too... but I\'m against having power in the hands of NPCs as much as possible.

[Xandria]

Even though I want to open up my own shop, I also agree that taxation of rented/owned buildings should be implemented.  As mentioned before, it will allow the people who use their buildings to keep them, and keep others from buying a house and never using it.

As for sales tax...I\'m still unsure.  Obviously trades among players would not be enforced, but for people running shops it might be necessary.  Again, there are reasons for it IRL, but in game NPC\'s don\'t need the money.  So is it just one of those features we want to implement because that\'s how it is IRL, or is there an actual use for it (like the ideas above of the richer cities having more guards, etc.)?  I remember there was a thread on player/guild owned cities, in which case a sales tax could be implemented so that the mayor could build additional structures.  This is the only reason I could see for it at this time.

More to come (maybe   )...

[Davis]

If theres gonna be a tax, it shouldn\'t be some automated process. The NPC\'s should have to work to enforce it. You gotta base stuff around real life. (You know, you get inspected, and fined if you don\'t keep accurate records...) I mean, why should a black market dealer be paying taxes?
As for who assigns taxes, well, money has to come from somewhere, so the taxes depend on the town.

[Kuiper7986]

Okay maybe no township, item, or terroritory taxes but at minimal I\'m still very pro for housing and player building project taxes. It shouldn\'t be easy to make or rent a house. It\'s more of a priviledge than a right. No one guarentees you the right to live in a house, but you are given the priviledge to. It\'s not fair if a house is 1000 tria and that person owns it forever. If he doesn\'t pay he should give it up.


Nikech you said:
I agree with you, but NO monthly taxes for owning a house or a guild. What if you\'re gone on a holiday for a month or two or have some other reason not to be able to play, you\'d lose all your many to taxes.

Then you should send a message or email to the Dev\'s or whoever is in charge at that time, and tell them you\'ll be gone. You can try to reach an agreement with them like, increase the tax you pay for your house for the first few months after you get back from your vacation or pay in advance. Which brings me to my next point, what if someone left the game and never came back yet he owns a house. Well it isn\'t fair that he gets to keep his house there, maybe someone wants that land. Then there\'s no way for anyone to get that land because someone\'s house is there, even if taht owner\'s house quit the game.

Xordan you said:
I would refuse to pay any tax, and kill anyone who tryed to make me pay it. Tax is one of the more unpleasent things in life, I don\'t want it to be in planeshift as well.

Your being very conservative, taxes help schools and state infrastructure. Where\'s the state government going to get the money to fix freeways, roads, and clean pollution in our oceans? Planeshift should have taxes because it would allow players to play a more vital role in the game because in the game if they\'re paying taxes, then in return they should get more say about what can be done to improve Planeshift (in-game) I mean.

As for guild taxes the guild can do whatever they want. if they don\'t want their members to pay taxes that\'s there problem. But there should be a tax for even owning a guild because owning a guild symbolizes that your have more authority in Planeshift than a player by himself.

[Davis]

If you are leaving the game for a while, rent out the house.

[ForteX]

Tax...tax....
Well, the part of taxing someone for ownig a house is fine, although, the feeing part SHOULDN\'T be dev responsabiliti, the player could like, go to a goverment house (npc...) and pay there, he could also pay in advance, so if the person goes on vacation, he has it already paid. Or there could be a agreement on the delay on the payment of two months, for example, after that the house is removed from the player, or he pays a increased tax to compensate the two months (a lot) so this way, in two months the house would be clear for another buyer, or would be payed and in use for the original buyer. Dunno, just ideas....
Also, the army idea is quite nice, after all, the cities DO depend on the taxes. The bigger the traffic, the lower the taxes and the biggest the armies. Even because, cities could wage war against cities, that would be nice hehe >=)

[Kuiper7986]

ya that\'s what I\'m trying to say, specifically for owning houses or property.