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« Reply #75 on: April 04, 2004, 07:28:53 pm »
I am no longer a member of Bloodclaw Inc. I resigned, along with others, when we could not resolve an internal dispute with Head Leader Natrina. I was Master of Society Workers and Natrina\'s first assistant.

Thanks to most  everyone for your hard work and dedication to the Bloodclaw vision. Today, the guild is one of the greatest in all of Plainshift, and we certainly earned our right to be counted among them.

For those of you who have resigned or ceased to participate as guild members over this matter, I commend you for placing principles ahead of all other considerations. The example we set won\'t be forgotten by Natrina no matter what her new assistants may say today or tomorrow - she\'s the only one that really matters. We did the best we could to protect her in a situation that no one ever dreamed could happen. One day soon I hope she will look back on this and understand that what we did was done in the spirit of friendship and love even if it seemed very wrong at the time.

The journey is the reward,
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« Reply #76 on: April 05, 2004, 12:15:57 am »
Good luck on the guild oh and gratz to Natrina and Harvey
/me pats Sangwa
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« Reply #77 on: April 05, 2004, 02:24:24 am »
DON\'T PAT ME! XD
« Last Edit: April 05, 2004, 02:24:49 am by Sangwa »
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maax leaving
« Reply #78 on: April 09, 2004, 06:50:23 am »
Quote \"I\'ll only quit Bloodclaw on the day Nat does.\" Quote


so much for this, and dont use that commoner c**p as an excuse, Natrina CANT be a tool to make guild alliances.

i may of judged you wrong about your ability to acept others decicions and support them( if not for harvey and nat, at least support nat in her desicion.
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« Reply #79 on: April 09, 2004, 05:20:02 pm »
Nardia, I can\'t read the members-only Bloodclaw Inc. forums anymore so I don\'t know what exactly is being said about me there. Therefore, it\'s quite unfair of you to publish your first-ever post in the Planeshift forum, where all the public can read it, fueled by whatever BC members are saying to you in your private forum. What you\'ve written about doesn\'t make much sense to anyone who doesn\'t know what\'s going on but it does make it seem as though I\'ve done something unprincipled. But I have not. I did the right thing while I was running Bloodclaw and I did the right thing when I left. I failed to protect the best interests of Nat and the guild, that is why I resigned - plain and simple. Since leaving the guild I have not tried to disrupt your guild in anyway, I simply left. If you\'re being told something else, it\'s false information. I haven\'t posted anything anywhere about the dispute Nat and I had. The reason why is not because I was wrong, it\'s because I don\'t wish to hurt Nat or you or the guild.

Nardia, before you judge me you should think about a few things: Start with our own relationship. Wasn\'t it good? Then look at my total contribution to the guild, it was quite large. Did I do my job well or not? Almost every official document of Bloodclaw was authored by me or edited by me. Those documents are the foundation of the guild\'s operating principles. Anything wrong with them? Now read all of my forum posts. Do you realize how much work and love I put into your guild? Finally, think about this - when people post chat logs as proof of some point they are trying to make just remember that private chats were never meant to be public documents and they can be edited, and often are, in disputes among guild members. I\'ve been in a slander scrap or two before and seen a lot cut and paste happen. That\'s why I usually stick to reading forum posts that can\'t be edited to get an idea of who people are.

\"I\'ll only quit Bloodclaw on the day Nat does.\"  Yup, I wrote that. It was another guild when I did. It changed and I changed my mind.

If you want to talk about any of this, PM me. This subject should not be a public debate and I won\'t respond to slander.

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« Reply #80 on: April 10, 2004, 03:01:53 pm »
Nardia,
Maxximus or anyone else never mentioned using Nat for guild alliances. Make sure you know what your talking about before you post anything. Maxximus and others (including me) had other reasons to quit Bloodclaw. Nuff said.

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« Reply #81 on: April 10, 2004, 03:18:53 pm »
uhh... what\'s all this? From what I heard Maxximus was getting power hungry and all.
But I don\'t know details about all this so I\'ll be quiet now :P
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« Reply #82 on: April 10, 2004, 04:26:18 pm »
That is not at all true Draklar.

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« Reply #83 on: April 10, 2004, 04:34:40 pm »
Thanks, Whisp. How u doin, btw.  :)

I think Drak was making a joke.

(But, I do have a tatoo of Hitler on my butt, Draklar. That info is  100% true.)

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« Reply #84 on: April 10, 2004, 07:04:29 pm »
Kewl maybe I\'ll get one of those ;)
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this true??
« Reply #85 on: April 11, 2004, 11:38:33 am »
This is a transcript maax and nat ( i believe it is true to the letter if otherwise let me know maax)

you can\'t marry him.
lol Climax, can\'t you be more direct?  
exactly
well.. hum..
i could find you so many more qualified men
but, Harvey??
do you like Harvey?
oh come on Climax!
I do, why would I marry him otherwise?
come on you, answer me, do you like him?
bah
nevertheless, it\'s a mistake
why?
he is a commoner
you must narry only men of high status
lol Climax, why?
talk all you like with Harvey, be his best friend if you like, but don\'t lower your near god-like status to his.
I\'m not lowering it..
because it\'s bad for you (you can\'t see that, obviously) and bad for the guild.
Well, if I did marry a non-blood I would be doing a worst mistake
cause like
only if he was a fool
...
well, unless I would marry with some other guy to create an alliance/fusion of the guild it would probably be as bad
THAT\'S what royalty does
Royalty does marry a Haveywallnager
lol, I\'m not royalty..
Wallnager lol
it can\'t even imagine marrying a Harveywallbanger
he\'s...a wallbanger!
Ok, let me think..
non-bloods have no right to live in our blood\'s land!
why not?
well, cause it\'s our land of production
make no difference to us as long as there is a reason and we allow it
marriage could be one reason, renting land another
I do guess as there will be no player comand cities we will live by side with non bloods
in general, no they should stay away. but, there could be exceptions. what does this have to do with harvey?
ya, who knows
probably side by side
cause he is a blood, not a non  
ok, i see. well, look,instead of looking for \"legal\" reasons why this is a good marriage, tell me what you think about the Royalty aspect I just explained
and pulling it off after making noise would be worst
that\'s all that matters
what does this mean? [16:18] and pulling it off after making noise would be worst
well, how many royal people exist in ps?
you
lol
you are like Royalty
so I should marry myself?
you are the guild leader
no. you should not marry harvey
well, and if I married Thormor? It wouldn\'t be ok still would it?
of course not
he\'s even more boring than Harvey
but, they are the same: commoners
... again Climax
who am I supossed to marry if I can\'t marry commoners?
Most people are commoners
hahaha, ok, skip the \"boring\" comment
well, you could \"elevate\" a commoner if he was young, handsome and cool
lol, that is so..
all the things that harvey and thormor are not
well, most people in PS look the same
you know what i mean
ok, but that leaves no one  
well, maybe, for now. What\'s your rush?
unless maybe Rabartus and I divorced him (lol)
I\'m not rushing anything
when CB comes there will be lots of new ppl
a Queen has no need for marriage
lots of \"hack \'n\' slash\" ppl
if she chooses it she picks a cool guy, though
lol
haha, you been reading the forum
oh Climax, you are such a difficult person to argue with, but I guess you know that  
Being right is hard to argue with
lol, don\'t be evil
if i was wrong, this would be easy
my job is to protect you
you know it\'s set and many people know of it, pulling it off now would be kind of..
disapointing?  
not to marry you or let you make other mistakes
i know how to handle the de-announcement
leave it to me.
But I don\'t want you to do it
!
all you have to do is tell Harvey it is off
yeah, and that\'s pretty painful  
ya, I noticed that.
he will pick another bride in weeks
he doesn\'t care
they guy is kind of simple
not your type at all
my type? Oh now we are down to my type..
your type is regal
his type is Volkswagon
lol
the old ones, too
it\'s too weird, Nat, too negative
ah, come on Climax, let me marry him, if I get bored I\'ll divorce, no big deal
but you are only person saying it\'s negative..
he\'s 3 times your age, not very bright, his wife is married to another guys 1/2 her age...weird
well, it\'s role play Climax
who you gonna trust? those ppl who do NOTHING for you and Bloodclaw or me, your most loyal and dependable servant??
what matters is what they are ingame, nothing more
i know it\'s role play
bah, ingame is out game too.
this is not a strict RPG
so, it\'s not like I\'m going to give Harvey any power at all
the most I can give him is a space in my bed  
but, ok, even if we accept it as in-character, HJarvey is wrong for you.
if it\'s sex chat you want we can find a suitable guy.
no, that\'s not what I want!
well, you said bed, so...
it was just an expresion
ya, ok
so, is this silence a \"yes\"?
huh?
or just a massive reply?
a yes to what question?
like you said \"No you cant marry him\" I was waiting for a \"yes you can\"  
I am against the marriage
for 1 million years i will be against it
lol don\'t say that I see an old enki saying
\"I told you not to marry him natri\"
lol
i will be a grey enki by then
tell harvey you reconsidered and can\'t do it.
can I get a yes on that??
no! I can\'t do that
come on, if it goes wrong then you\'ll always have the
\"I told you so!\" line to say
and I suposse that would feel quite nice to you  
i have that now, it\'s wrong from Square #1
what makes me feel nice is not something as petty as being proved correct
i feel nice when you and the High Council do the right things
we can\'t do nice things cause the world isn\'t ready
not for us not for anybody, but when it will ohhohohoh  
if you marry harvey then I will have failed in my mission to protect you and Bloodclaw
why? Again, he won\'t have any power at all
and I would have to resign
it\'s not about power
so how could you have failed? Nothing has been lost?
it\'s about honor, your honor, which is directly tied to the guild\'s honor
*lost.
but.. my honor is being hurt?
anyone can screw up in the guild and the guild is ok. but if you screw up, that\'s a nother story
but nothing can screw me, unless some really nasty thing, and Harvey isnt it
I have explained it as best I can.
he is a common man.
but you shall not resign will you?
that\'s not someone you should be marrying
yes i will
one minute after the ceremony
oh come on! You are making things way too much dificult then they sould be
i have to go now. bbl
ok
see you then
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« Reply #86 on: April 11, 2004, 11:59:18 am »
Nat is a god?  harvy is a commer? what the hell do you bloodclaws talk about in your time? for gods sake that has to be the most pointless argument ever. 1) nat is not a near god 2) its a game rp wedding it can mean as much or as little as the people whant it to 3) if i may ask who do you think is/was nat\'s level of \"roalty\" ?

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« Reply #87 on: April 11, 2004, 12:36:09 pm »
Psch royalty. Royalty don\'t appreciate the value of a warm ale, of your brothers in arms or the simple things in life. All they care about is themselves; power and wealth. Always wanting more, never satisfied. Forgive me for being but a commoner  m\'lady, but you people make me sick.

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« Reply #88 on: April 11, 2004, 01:44:01 pm »
Are you sure that is real? ^^
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« Reply #89 on: April 11, 2004, 01:51:07 pm »
4) Maybe you don\'t know what you are talking about. 5) Hmm numeration is anoying XD
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