Favorite Music

[zanzibar]

@Zanzibar It has a lot to do with it as the song that you eventually hear may bear only passing resemblance to the song that was written. It isn't really worth arguing about and since you do not care for my opinions I will let it go at that.

You can have a lot of slick production, but it's still the same song underneath...

[Robinmagus]

System Of A Down


Self titled album was the shiznit. That and 1999(95?) demo tape songs.

[bilbous]

@Zanzibar Is a song that lasts 2:39 on the studio album truly the same song that is half of a song that is 13:37 on the live album?

The Yessongs version of "the fish (Schindleria Praematurus)" is considerably longer than the studio version on Fragile, with bassist Chris Squire taking an extended solo (and jamming with Bruford) in mid-song.

Is a novel the same story as the short story which inspired it? What about remixes?

Umm sorry I was going to Leave It

[Parallo]

No matter how many times you remix something it still has the same chord pattern(Most of the time) and vocals, meaning that it is in fact the same song.

[dying_inside]

Face Down - The Delusion
Parkway drive - Romance is dead  ( "So cry me a ^&*&ing river., #$^@!" I love that line )

[ Edited for language. --Karyuu ]

[bilbous]

@Parallo So which songs exactly are on this album Are they Beatles songs, are they Jay-Z's or are they something else altogether?

[Parallo]

Ah, 'mish mashes' are a sometimes horrible clash of sounds. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Consider that like two songs fusing in the way some embryos can to form one.

[bilbous]

And yet they are a type of remix.

In a limited way I do agree that a song remains the same however I think it might be more appropriate to talk about a songs theme or some other better fitting description I cannot think of right now. There are a million blues songs with the same chord progressions in e and a (is that right?) that clearly are not the same song. As well If you play a medley with 30 second chunks of six different songs, you haven't really played any of them but you have sort of played them all. 

[Parallo]

Well look at, although I know you don't want to, Tom Waits on Franks Wild Years. He has two incredibly different versions of the same song. They're still the same song even though one is jungle style percussion and one is hollywood style jazz. They are the same song. The way your looking at is that miute differences can make a song different.

[bilbous]

Is this song the same song as this one? A judge thought so but I wouldn't agree.

Oh and Dancing Homer wants a Reggae beat tonight. I guess it really comes down to semantics. If they change enough details they don't have to pay you for the rights to your life when they make the movie of the week but put three seconds of my song in yours I'll sue you to next Tuesday.

[Parallo]

I can't hear them so I don't have a clue how similar they are. I don't really follow whos sueing who these days or the music business either. It's all gone to crap.

[Idoru]

how about, Make your own kind of music, mamas and papas version vs the happy hardcore version on bonkers 3, hixxys mix.

Same lyrics but certainly not the same song.


Great to hear someone mention Tom waits ;o)

[zanzibar]

@Zanzibar Is a song that lasts 2:39 on the studio album truly the same song that is half of a song that is 13:37 on the live album?

I don't recall anyone in this thread talking about radio edits.

[Xus]

Yeah, but why not just listen to 60's rock?

Well I, of course, personally would.  But what I'm saying is that Wolfmother is worming their way into the hearts and minds of some of today's tactless youth, and may, in-fact, act as a segway for said ignorant adolescents to get into some older stuff, back when the amps all used tubes and talent was actually worth something...

*stares dreamily off into space, remembering the decade he never knew*

No matter how many times you remix something it still has the same chord pattern(Most of the time) and vocals, meaning that it is in fact the same song.

That is not entirely true... Look, for instance, at Chicago's "Does Anyone Know What Time It Is" and Slipknot's "Pulse of the Maggots."  Many don't know it, but Pulse of the Maggots started off as the very same song, and from there just went to hell...

[Shimmabuku]

Yeah, but why not just listen to 60's rock?

Because Its not the 60's anymore and songs get old.