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« Reply #45 on: December 13, 2003, 04:16:26 pm »
lol, i just found a very old BO reqruitment thread where you can see the black order had no goals itself:
http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=745&boardid=18
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« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2003, 05:35:08 pm »
Hahaha! I noticed the same thing. Looks like you need to update the website, Annah.
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« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2003, 09:02:53 pm »
Heh ...
 First of all check the date. Second - to be powerful is one of our goals even now. Why do you think every clan here wants? POWER! Ah ... one more thing - you see we were 16 when we made the guild official (it was unofficial since the end of 2001). I don\'t think I see here that the guilds that are started has at least over 3 members. And tell me this is a good thing for PS! Noobs? You really have to see the truth ...
 And don\'t tell be me it\'s an absurdity that some of us weren\'t new ... because it\'s not true. We were creating in the same time with the 3D PS ...
 To be more sincere ... BO exists since the summer of 2001 - when we were a guild for Vampire.
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« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2003, 09:10:41 pm »
Well if BO existed before joining Planeshift, then yea, in realms of Yliakum it never was newly created guild...
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« Reply #49 on: December 15, 2003, 01:29:04 am »
There is no shame in admitting your guild was once new. the DE was once new, but we earned respect because we didnt act n00bish :P
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« Reply #50 on: December 15, 2003, 09:35:01 am »
k k ... :D
 Only stop keeping this thread alive ... heh. They\'re already dead you see ...
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« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2003, 05:05:29 am »
They\'re only \"dead\" cuz they didn\'t have enough time to get the website done.
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« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2003, 07:36:33 am »
\'they\'? Did this guild actually get any members? ?(
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« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2003, 08:50:27 am »
How can you expect a \'NEW\' guild to get any members or to succeed when all they get is comments like these from other guilds.
IMO older more \'respected\' guilds should give guidence and support to those new people who want to try with a guild.
Just because you have been around for a while doesnt mean that you are better than them,in fact i have little respect for anyone that tells someone not even to bother creating a guild when for all you could know they may become the most respected guild on PS. Condeming a guild before its even been completed shows the thought of a child. How can you judge someone before you know them,you may have deturmined your fate by that post, you cannot predict the future of guilds, andything may happen.
As i know little about BO i cannot comment too much but,you WERE a new guild, a new guild to PS,it doesnt matter what you were before PS but when you made your guild a PS you began a new guild.
Untill more features are implimented into PS you cannot tell what will happen with the guilds. Those old guilds have only gained respect from their idears and activity on forums and ingame. As things change the newer guilds will change with them and older guilds may not be as hasty to change their aims.
As for neutral guilds,All guilds are neutral untill thought is put into it and the concept of the guilds is created.A neutral guild may flourish in PS and recruit members and long allies,those people who respect them will continue to as they gradualy set a path for themselfs that may not be neural in the end.If a guild gains knollege of the PS world as a neutral guild they have a foothold for the future,whereas those who start evil/good have determined their path and it may not be as easy to change.Their alignment has already determined the opninions of many people.
You may have been around longer than others but you were once new,you were given a chance,none told you that your guild was crap and would never work.
If you encourage these new guilds they will have more commitment to their guilds and with encouragement they will enjoy creating a guild and putting effort into it. Their guild may become better than anyother, if however u condem them they will not create the guild or feel wlcome in PS because the respected guilds have no respect for them.
Those of you who are well known are showing disrespect for those new guilds and guild leader who you have judged before they have even began,and that imo shows that you feel you are better because you are old,which is not true,and i have no respect or comments to those of you who will not even give these people a chance to make their guild work.

*Edit* ignore all of my bad grammar and spelling mistakes as i am very tierd and have no time to correct them.
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« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2003, 03:20:11 pm »
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IMO older more \'respected\' guilds should give guidence and support to those new people who want to try with a guild.

see how the leader reacted to an advice from someone (beginning of this thread)
That\'s exactly my point, leader isn\'t doing anything good for the guild by reacting like that.
Also notice that not all new guilds get welcome like that. Get conclusion.
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« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2003, 04:03:43 pm »
Yeah, u\'d better run!!!
Pah, new guilds are cannon fodder. Very few survive.... :D
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« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2003, 04:46:37 pm »
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Yeah, u\'d better run!!!
Pah, new guilds are cannon fodder. Very few survive.... :D


very few guilds do survive,but there are always those who do and there is always room for good guilds.
New guilds need to be given a chance to show their potencial,not just be pushed aside from the very start.

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see how the leader reacted to an advice from someone (beginning of this thread)
That\'s exactly my point, leader isn\'t doing anything good for the guild by reacting like that.
Also notice that not all new guilds get welcome like that. Get conclusion.

Your talking about the person who posted this thread yes?
he specified that people should ask for info etc,asked nicely and asked for no spamming, and the very first reply was a negative post complaining.After one negative post the whole thread follows the same sequence.No guild is perfect,especialy in the begginings and will improve and progress with time if given the opitunity. Pointless posts from those who want to negitavly critisize and put guilds down are just stupid.
there are alot more guilds with less objectives than this, if i remember a post above, BO\'s first recruitment thread was nomore than a few lines, and now they are a well known and established guild.

Couldnt understand the ending to your post btw.

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« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2003, 05:04:27 pm »
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Your talking about the person who posted this thread yes?
he specified that people should ask for info etc,asked nicely and asked for no spamming, and the very first reply was a negative post complaining.

negative? All I can see there is a friendly advice... followed by unfriendly reaction of leader... *shrugs*
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Couldnt understand the ending to your post btw.

you say we are negative towards new guilds.
Actually I made my opinion after some time, after seeing leader\'s actions
You say all that after looking at only one thread, did you check other guilds\' threads before making your conclusions? Let\'s say Sword of Silence...
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« Reply #58 on: December 16, 2003, 05:28:12 pm »
Yeah im bloody grateful...because I know how older members react in new guys(guilds) that I had such warm welcome...(I have worked hard for establishing my little place...but still much work to do)..
anyway my point...If u want to start something good U better think again and then decide...

I know that i dont have respect..but this is no ghost guild that comes and goes...Ill try to be good leader with good guild..
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« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2003, 08:42:11 pm »
Windra all you?ve said is true. A word is more powerful than a weapon strike. But, let?s give an example BO, I think you?ve seen that when I made the guild official we already had 16 members. I gained respect because I knew how to handle with everyone, even if they were new also.
But don?t tell me the PS community will become ?perfect? if dozens of new guys come here in this part of the forums and notice us that they are creating another guild! Guild that doesn?t even has 3 members. A guild must be well organized ? must have a background history and its leader have to take care of it. I don?t see these guys doing such things. If you think you will feel better if we will support hundred of ?ghost? guilds, it?s your personal opinion.
Being here from the beginning gave me the chance to meet almost all members of this community. And I think I know when a person has a chance or it doesn?t have one if they will start a guild.
There are many great new leaders here, people like Sabrewulf or Wolfmane, people that knew how to create a guild. But I don?t remember they started like this ?Imperial Legion? for example. A leader must learn how to speak Windra ?
As for BO, maybe we were new at the beginning ? but same as the guilds that were then, and same as Planeshift at that stage! There are more than 2 years since I first came here, and I saw how many of my members started their own guilds (how is Yann ? I really wish him the best), and like I said I met many people. But many had something that the new guys from this time don?t have. RESPECT! I think me, or guys (and girls ?) like Kiern, Aelya, Devoted and many others deserve such thing. I am really amazed how someone was talking with Kiern a few months ago ? but ?
And if you don?t care about me Windra, because you pointed at me with your words, I really don?t care either ? you really are no one for me ?
Ah, and about that chance that is given for every guild ? everyone has it, but it depends on them how they will ?work? with it!
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