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« Reply #135 on: October 09, 2004, 02:48:00 am »
Update:



Got rid of the skull, as per Seppie\'s request ;), and... well, did a whole bunch of stuff. The symbol on the blade is my signature. The word on the tassel says \"Sep\". This is fun. :)

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« Reply #136 on: October 09, 2004, 03:14:26 am »
That looks great moogie, the armor is awesome.

One thing I would change is his mouth or facial expression. I liked it better in your sketch with a grim determination expression rather than a maniacal grin on his face. Just my opinion...

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« Reply #137 on: October 09, 2004, 03:23:30 am »
This is really good, I must admit, I was doubtful of first, though I did like the tattered samurai-ish Seperot with the flames.

How did you get so good?

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« Reply #138 on: October 09, 2004, 03:33:05 am »
Adeli: 14 years and the 7 pages of this thread for practice. Practice practice practice! :D


Still to do:

Flames
Smoke
Ground
Stuff
Things
Odds
Ends
Penguins
Bunnies eating penguins
etc...

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« Reply #139 on: October 09, 2004, 03:35:34 am »
Well, your practise has definitely paid off.

Hmm \"Bunnies eating penguins\"? Haha, that sounds amusing.

Edit: Are you guys having fun testing? I imagine it\'s a lot of hard work.
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« Reply #140 on: October 09, 2004, 03:47:08 am »
Well I try to share what I\'ve learned in the way I present my work. This is a perfect example, posting pics all the way back to the original sketch, to show exactly how my thoughts and ideas flowed, what order I built things up in, etc. I want people to see and understand how it happened, and maybe some of them will realise \"hey, it\'s not all that hard when you look at it that way\". :)

As for the CB testing, things are a little slow right now. The good news is, we\'ve eliminated almost all of the crashes that are capable of bringing the server down. I think we\'ll only find more when more testers are let in to cause more server stress. We\'ve tested new maps, new features, new player models, combat, ingame merchants, and the enhanced NPCs (although they are currently mute, due to bugs). I\'d say more, but then I\'d be shot, and you\'d be next. ;)

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« Reply #141 on: October 09, 2004, 06:13:22 am »
That last one of sep is great!
You are talented with Photoshop!  :D

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« Reply #142 on: October 09, 2004, 08:53:27 pm »
Hmm, okay, this time I need some opinions about the background.

As you know, this is gonna be a t-shirt print. I want to keep the focus on Seperot, so I don\'t want to go into any/much detail with the surroundings. However, I\'m not happy with the current sudden floor/fire split, and I don\'t know how to make it look better.



(New to this version are the sparks, some extra shine on the katana blade, and also I re-drew his foot into a more natural position. Oh, and obviously the stone ground and fire... blaahh)

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« Reply #143 on: October 09, 2004, 09:03:50 pm »
Possibly add some burning rubble?  Put some pieces of rubble in front of others to give depth to the flames and break up the sudden rock floor/fire split.  I\'d give you a quick example, but I\'m trying to write a paper :P

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« Reply #144 on: October 09, 2004, 09:06:28 pm »
very nice, i like the notched blade. as for the floor fire thing maybe you could show something burning, is he in a town or an open area? maybe some dry grasslands near the back would make it more realistic
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« Reply #145 on: October 09, 2004, 09:20:33 pm »
WOW... WOW...

How about a burning village in the background? and make it blurry becouse the warrior is charging at someone. (You know when someone is going by very fast, you only see a blur)

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The feet need more work...

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« Reply #146 on: October 09, 2004, 09:57:20 pm »
teh......uber :D

i love it ^.^ sep is just right

s for the fire ness just set some houses on fire and mebbie a woman burning and running screaming....:D

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« Reply #147 on: October 10, 2004, 12:05:27 am »
Possibly put a few flames in front of Sep, it will look more natural, but it might be hard to keep the whole Sep visible.

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« Reply #148 on: October 10, 2004, 05:31:57 am »
Yeah, I like the way you do step by steps of your artwork. Tutorials like that are the easiest way to learn.

[complain]except when your 3dsmax6 crashes every time you try to render an .avi[/complain]

OT: any ideas about that anyone?

Hmm... I like the new image, and definitely agree with the dislike of the floor/fire split. I think the idea of burning rubble is good, or you could have the fire closing off the back as if Sep was running from it. (Enkis and flames = bad idea after all)

As for the testing, that was more than I expected to hear, thankyou it\'s nice to have some news. I was anticipating a \"it\'s hard work but good\" response, or even a \"NDA\" response.

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« Reply #149 on: October 10, 2004, 04:26:21 pm »
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Originally posted by Moogie
Hmm, okay, this time I need some opinions about the background.

As you know, this is gonna be a t-shirt print. I want to keep the focus on Seperot, so I don\'t want to go into any/much detail with the surroundings. However, I\'m not happy with the current sudden floor/fire split, and I don\'t know how to make it look better.


Well, I am positively impressed by the quality of the new details. But I will jump right into those little things that render me a bit uneasy.

The front leg still seems to me to be slightly longer than the other. I suggest trying to reproduce the pose in front of a mirror: Grab a chair or something to lean on, and tilt your body to the angle Seperot has in his running stance (Careful! I almost chip a tooth in this one!). Then bend your front leg at a bit less than 90? degrees, and see where your foot ends. I personally found it is more distanced from the ground, and located more to the left of the picture. However, the author is the one to decide, since the new trend in cartoons and modern animation is NOT to respect proportions so strictly, sacrificing accuracy in exchange for visual effect (Take Samurai Jack, for example).

I tried drawing two lines using Illustrator, to measure the height of Seperot in comparison to the length of the tail. I found that the character\'s full height (A bit more than seven heads, which means it is very balanced), was almost the same as the tail at full extension (The tail was a bit less than seven heads long). I, personally, would shorten the tail somewhat. And in addition, I believe the bones clasping the tail would make it a tad heavier, I think. Although that one is a much more subjective opinion than measuring proportions, and I could easily accept its position as it is.

A ground-level cloud of smoke could be useful to your ground/fire separation. Rule of thumb says that if the division is too brusque, fading the borderline is a viable option. Another is the aforementioned piles of rubble, that would indicate more explicitly that a structure is actually burning.

The hair seems to be a single united mass in movement. Taking a quick peek at some anime pictures (Japanese artists have an enormous talent at drawing hair in motion) could perhaps give you some ideas. Then again, it is once more my personal taste.

A few yellowish highlights on the armour, reflecting the blazes, could make the composition look more thorough. If considered, it should be a final touch, a coup de grace if you want, and then I would ponder if the effect is actually positive or detrimental to the composition.

Other than that, the blade and armour look great, and the detail is quite fascinating. I like the new position of the back foot, and the dynamic sensation portrayed by the artwork.

I am often quite critical of 100% CG images, because I feel the \"hand\" of the artist is quite usually lost (Which is why I ink my drawings and scan them for colouring. Or I would, if the darn scanner worked). But I find that Moogie\'s result is pleasing, harmonious, and easy to the eye.

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