Thats it I cant take it!!!

[Davis]

Hopefully you can make something better for the dungeon too...

[Icefalcon]

ya good luck whemy, i look forward to hearing what your music will sound like  but i think the current theme song is sweet already...

[Davis]

I agree. The current theme will own and eat whatever you do. Go for the dungeon music; you bang your younger siblings heads into kitchen utensils and it will sound better than the shit they are using now.

[Skizzik]

The current dungeon music tends to give me a headache.

[Elegrand]

Indeed, it seems much too chaotic.

[Dalec]

I may be able to be of some help...I am a musician myself. I also have recording equipment, PA system/guitars/bass/drums/piano/keyboard/clarinet and of course the digital recorder.

Also, I have a program (expensive one) well known and used for many theme songs for movies such as Gladiator, the new Star Wars and more. It is called Finale, and lets you notate music for virtually any insturment and then plays it back. Let me know if there is something you need.

Oh, and Good Luck!

(Here is my Email: ESDalec@hotmail.com)

[Olig]

I have been working on new music for PS myself with fruityloops3, but thats a techno creater and its not sounding too great, but its better than the current stuff!!!

[Karyuu]

Originally posted by Dalec
It is called Finale, and lets you notate music for virtually any insturment and then plays it back.

I\'ve been looking for such a program for a long time now. I assume it allows you to connect a midi keyboard and compose from there? That would be just awesome. How hard is it to learn to use, also?

[DraGonFisT]

yeh Olig i love fruity, but i dont think its appropriate for PS. Even tho the current music is not too good...but they\'ll improve..I know it

[Dalec]

In reply to Karyuu,

It is very simple to use, but there is so much content that it gets kind of difficult to do some of the more advanced stuff. But even then, it is only a matter of looking it up in help or the manual.

Also, it does indeed support midi keyboard, and that is fairly simple to use as well. Bear in mind the program is a bit pricy, they ask for $600 or something on the site, but I got mine new on Ebay for $230 or so.

It is perfect for theme music, especially games, since it plays back the music with each instrument sounding like they should (i.e. violin sounds like violin, Bagpipes sound like...well crap but thats just because bagpipes sound like crap :p )

The current music for PS sounds like it could even use it, or at least a similar program

[Karyuu]

Thanks for the reply, Dalec

I had a midi cord stashed away somewhere for the longest time. Time to put it to use

*hums the Ebay song*

[Kixie]

Well just a little update.... I have guitar completely finished and most of the other little instruments and effects but.... I am stuck on if i should have vocals... vocals complete a song. They help it bump up from the good factor to the Wonderfull factor. They are just that important. But if i do that i have to have it in some language (a given duh) and planeshift is an assorted group. I really like japanese vocals, but for one some people hate it, and the other fact is i know of no people who have a great voice and speak japanese. But then there is french. French songs sound WONDERFULL if done right. Everyone here is either american or in a european nations so they will have heard french before and the vocals wont be way over their head (translation wise). Plus there are a bunch of girls in my school who speak pretty good frech and are in choir. So all i have to do is persuade (or pay) one of them to sing some vocals. But the problem there is I first need a good translator. So im gonna make some good lyrics, but i need someone to translate them in a poetic fashon (make them rhyme or have some sort of rythym). Im hitting a brick wall here people. So should i have vocals and make it sound good or should i just leave them behind and produce instrumentals only?

[willaert]

You don\'t want Finale for recording-- it is designed for music notation and Sibelius is better than Finale for that.  I\'ve used both extensively (literally hundreds of pages of music) and Sibelius is easier to use hands down.  If you need to record music, you want to get Sonar from Cakewalk or one of the home versions of that program (there are others someone might recommend).  ProTools is the industry standard, but that is VERY pricey.  Cakewalk will do everything you want, most likely, and will come in an affordable version.  http://www.cakewalk.com

I\'m recording some stuff for PS because I like doing game music, I\'m in between recording gigs, and of all the MMORPGs I\'ve seen online, this one seems to be the furthest along.  Judging from what I\'ve read, the new version will be even better, so I hope I can help out the project for some time to come.  Listen for my tracks in the new version in some of the new parts of the world.

Nick
http://www.nicholaspalmer.com

[Dalec]

I never recomended it as a recording program, in fact I have my own digital recorded. If you notice, Karyuu said he intended to use it to make *compositions* which is what Finale was designed for. Anyway, don\'t listen to the nay sayer, Finale is a great program.

[willaert]

Hey, Dalec,

I shouldn\'t have come down so hard on Finale.  It is still the industry standard in American music publishing and Sibelius is not available in a scaled down version, whereas with Finale you can get Finale Allegro ($200ish), PrintMusic ($50ish), and Notepad (used to be free, not sure what it is now).   If you are a college student, you can get deep discounts on almost all software of any kind, so all these things become pretty affordable.

You mentioned that you have a digital recorder-- what do you use to sequence?  I gather from your posts that you use Finale to play the synthesizer and that you record that performance with a digital recorder of some kind.  If I\'m wrong, tell me, but I want to steer musicians away from Finale as a sequencer because it has very limited functionality.  There are several programs ranging from cheap to expensive that do sequencing much better and handle digital recording besides.  As you and I agree, I think, Finale produces a nice looking page of printed music because that is what it is designed to do, but other, much easier to use  software can be found for handling sequencing.  If you haven\'t discovered some of the great software out there, you\'re in for a wonderful surprise.

Nick