The PlaneShift World

[Axsyrus]

Originally posted by Axsyrus
Then, while talking to Talad, it got even worse
He told me that even on my map, the cave was too small, it could go completely through the planet and cover the whole center of the planet too. (yes, I think this is a really weird idea too, and I say we don\'t discuss this but just let this rest untill CB is finished and then try to find out how it really should be.)

Talad = Luca = PlaneShift Project Leader..


anyways, let\'s NOT discuss this like I said and wait for AFTER crystal blue with any questions like this..

[karakth]

Originally posted by Axsyrus

Then, while talking to Talad, it got even worse
He told me that even on my map, the cave was too small, it could go completely through the planet and cover the whole center of the planet too.

So that\'s how that notion came about. Could be wrong, who knows?

It\'s good that this discussion is taking place, because it draws attention to the idea and the Background Dev Team can think about it.

[Moogie]

Zeph\'s diagram is fundamentally wrong. People are drawn towards the center of the earth, at least, if they are inside Yliakum. Just look at the skydome texture as proof- the sky above has the shine of the Azure crystal. This proves that the crystal is above everyone\'s heads, not underneath their feet.

[Draklar]

Grono is right, we don\'t need to know all that. Planeshift is in medieval theme so I suppose people shouldn\'t know how all this works. And it\'s more fun (and good for rp) that you discover stuff by exploring the world, not gaining (too much) info from website and devs

[karakth]

Yeah but the Devs designining the game should think about the game\'s physics now, when the world is young, so as to prevent from designing an illogical world

[Zephyrus]

Originally posted by Mogura
Zeph\'s diagram is fundamentally wrong. People are drawn towards the center of the earth, at least, if they are inside Yliakum. Just look at the skydome texture as proof- the sky above has the shine of the Azure crystal. This proves that the crystal is above everyone\'s heads, not underneath their feet.

Lol, i wasnt saying that is how the game would work, just that it would work that way under current day physics

According to newton (who to be fair wasnt spot on), there is only two factors that affect gravity; amount of mass and distance from that mass.

Of course einstien slightly changed that, but for most puposes (i.e. when you are not moving at lightspeed) newton\'s is an accurate assumption

[Wedge]

You all are looking at this way to scientifically.  Given the magical nature of the giant lake at the center, I believe the core of the planet is a spherical mass of life-giving water that is the source of all creation in the world.  So there probably are other crystals and stalactites throughout the encircling cavern.  On the outside the planet is likely just a barren lifeless place with massive crystals protruding out at various points.  The stone labyrinths would in theory allow you to reach these other worlds, and that\'s how I\'ve always interpreted the meaning of \"Planeshift\".

[karakth]

I would understand planeshift as traveling between different planes of existence (via portals or magic perhaps?). That\'s why the motto say \"A universe is not enough.\"...I guess.

[Thardin]

Some devs say: \"Don\'t worry about this until CB is out.\"

Does this mean that (a part of) the cavern is in CB? Now that would be cool!

[karakth]

Meh, Devs always say that. We\'re just need to do something while waiting for CB to be released (If that something is discussing the physics of the PS world...why not?)

[baelang]

If the world were hollow, but rotating then you would have an \"artificial\" gravity field.

kind of like the thistledown in the \"Eon\" books.

[karakth]

But if the world is hollow, think about all that wasted space...And I supposethe thing would collapse on itself somehow. Nah, I think it\'s best if the cave was considered a fraction of the size of the planet.

And the planet would also be frozen if it were hollow.

[Kixie]

hmm i was reading about this sort of problem b4 somewhere. i know it was when some people were talking about how gravity would work if the world was in a donut shape. bassically the same thing would occur as you all art talking about. Scientists think that much of gravity (or some say all of it) is due to mass. greater mass, greater gravity. so if you were in the exact center of the hole in that donut shape planet would you be torn from every angle? no one knows and much of the same problem is brought here. so really the only thing i can tell ya is to blame the crazy gravity stuff on magic and leave it at that.

[LastAndroid]

How about this:

\"In the shadowed depths below the lake Kadaikos lies a great black crystal. Legends say it contains the force that binds the people to the earth. The few who have seen it saw it gives off not light or color, it seems like it will even suck in any light around it. The even fewer who have touched it say it is the most dense object ever discovered and seems to be indestructible. \"


Since it is very dense it has a huge mass and thus lots of gravity. Science part solved.

I think it also fits into the world very well.
It would be located in the middle of Kadaikos (it would be deep under water in darkness so it\'s not easily visible), basicly an inverse of the Azure/Sapphire Crystal.

As the Azure/Sapphire Crystal represents life I think this black crystal can represent death.
Firstly it\'s shrouded in darkness.
There is a very good metafore for life and death, you can kind of see it in the map of the world. Water (which represents life) starts at the Azure/Sapphire Crystal (which represents giving life aka birth) and slowly flows and drips through the caves until it arrives at Kadaikos (which represents the collective lifes of the world) and the black crystal (which represents death).

It needs to be polished alittle, but I think it will work.

[Icefalcon]

Well thats an interesting solution to the gravity problem...It would be kinda cool, it wouldnt do anything \'cept sit there though.