The PlaneShift World

[karakth]

Hmm the problem is this: The size of the planet might only be a bit greater than the size of the 2nd big cave.

In our universe large bodies tend to group other bodies around them from all directions, resulting in a spherical shape. If this doesn\'t hold throguh for this planet, then, well...What does?

Also Yliakum would have to be much bigger than one mile (The Azure crystall itself is many miles above the heads of people in the uppermost level). So It might just go through the planet\'s crust.

[The Gumster]

okay unless im mistaken the black crystal thing works except that everything would be glued to it et cetera.
so what if Talad/Laanx saw the threat in that and decided to put a vast magical field around it wich prevents anybody to get glued to it or whatever it was you said would happen .

*beams*

[Syzerian]

will you guys get over it?
its a fantasy. its not ment to make sense
the planet could be a perfect pyramid for all we know

*kicks the surface* \"there! not perfect anymore \"

[karakth]

Yes but why would the gods go through all that bother when they could just let it collapse on itself, and then create the caves in the new planet\'s crust?

Well yes it is a fantasy but fantasies should make sense physically. Even magic should make sense physically.

[Zephyrus]

Lol why is everyone becoming so hostile about it?

Frankly Syzerian we can discuss what we like, and yes we all know that its fantasy, and that logic doesnt have to apply here, we are simply looking at planeshift from a different PoV. Now why should we stop? unless physics makes you uncomfortable?  

[lynx_lupo]

These physics here are too naive and simplistic. MAGIC!

[AendarCallenlasse]

Whemy has a protege.

[Ripostellar]

I think there\'s a concrete problem here.. Assuming that the planet is spherical and the cave really is that big and the water is actually dropping from the top to the bottom (and no black crystal). If a person digs trough the \"bottom\", what happens to him? Does he just fell off to the space? And how it would look to the people who had somehow made their way to the surface? To make clear what I\'m saying I draw this simplified picture:

(Inspiration taken from Zephyrus\'s map)

Tell me if I\'m missing some major point here...

[Zephyrus]

you are missing a major point, they would be attracted back to the crust, seeing as compared to them the crust, (i assume) would have a huge mass. so if they dug through they would find they were going down until halfway through the crust/shell/layer and then they would feel like they were digging up.

i.e. they dug through the center of mass. The center of mass is dictated by two things, amount of mass and distance from it. So in fact when inside the cave tyou are being pulled by all sides of the cave, but since you are much much much closer to the part you are stood on the ceter of mass will be below you

The problem with the water though is that it wont fall like that... its probably magic water. Or the cave is a lot smaller, maybe talad will change his mind. Or maybe the world isnt spherical, or maybe there is a black crystal...

[karakth]

Although when they start to dig up, if they fall they\'ll just end up floating in mid-air then, right?

[Zephyrus]

yeah... they would dig up and then if they fell back they would fall towards the center of mass

[The Gumster]

actually i was checking the history of Yliakum and it doesnt make much sense (unless of couse i am missing something major) okay here is what i think happened okay, in the planet they find a nich? they enlarge it and make a cave, okay, then the whole thing with Vod?l et cetera, and later Laanx finds a cave a hundred times bigger than the one they created with a big stalactite and the rain thing et cetera with a lake where they created Kadaikos, then all of a sudden everybodys inside the stalactite (except of course the ones who live in Kadaikos...) does this make sense to you?

[Ripostellar]

Hmm yes I didn\'t think it all trough... And what comes to the floating in the center of mass... I think they won\'t let us go that far then, thinking of all the coding they\'d have to do... Although Explorers Guild will get there anyway

[Kixie]

actually you wouldnt float at all. really you would be ripped from every possible angle. you wouldnt want to be at the center of an objects mass trust me. well except your own really. lol

[Zephyrus]

Lol i dont think the physics will be this accurate