Neutral Guild Alliance?

[Kuiper7986]

The Evil Aligned Guilds have the Dark Alliance.

The Good Aligned Guilds have the Citadel of Light.

What about the Neutral Guilds? (Only pure neutral, not chaotic neutral or lawful neutral.)

Neutral Guilds should have an alliance to. Since neutral guilds are set on their own, they should of course have their own ideals not set by good or evil, but at least come to some sort of agreement that there could\'ve been an emergence in wealth. For instance lets say a an evil guild tries to take over, well then the Neutral guilds can sign a temporary treaty of friendship with other neutral guilds to summon an army to stop the evil guild from taking over.

Nothing would change about the individual guilds. All the neutral guilds will still hold neutral status and maintain their own rules. Except with this they can have inter-guild trading and have some political power that will maintain neutralization of the present neutral guilds.

Some names:

-Suzerainty of Independence
 (Soo-zer-ray-in-tee)

-The Nonpartisan Congregation

\"Sodalitas Quietus Civitas\" - Latin
Fellowship Neutral States
True Meaning: Fellowship of the Neutral States.

[Savion]

UM.. doesnt that defeat the purpose of being neutral?

[Kuiper7986]

Hence I quote, \"Nothing would change about the individual guilds. All the neutral guilds will still hold neutral status and maintain their own rules. Except with this they can have inter-guild trading and have some political power that will maintain neutralization of the present neutral guilds.\"

[SnowWolf]

But why would a neutral guild stop the evil guilds from taking over? Wouldn\'t fighting evil make them good?

[Kuiper7986]

My bad, I\'ll explain better. Lets take out the evil part and lets just say there\'s a guild threatening to destroy all neutral guilds. Then the guilds can band together to stop that guild from taking over.

[Phinehas]

But why would a neutral guild stop the evil guilds from taking over? Wouldn\'t fighting evil make them good?

No, that makes them neutral. Y\'know, maintaining the balance. Good guilds fight evil all the time, neutral guilds fight evil that is threatening to destroy the balance.

[Savion]

Neutral means not careing either way. They do not go towards good or bad... like Canada, their neutral...

So in conclusion...

Neutral Guilds + Alliance = Pointless

[Draklar]

you are soooooo wrong, Sav (and all others that think neutral guilds don\'t need alliance)
let\'s say there are few normal neutral guilds and one mighty evil guild. Now what if the evil guild decides to conquer all others? One after another, there wouldn\'t be any problem. But what if they unite? They can stand a fighting chance. There we go, alliance between neutral guilds is ready.
Other thing is that neutral guilds already have alliances, so what\'s the point of this thread?

[Dameon]

Neutral being allied with non neutral makes some sense, but netural and neutral = stupid and useless. Don\'t make Savion give you the mathimatical formula...

[Draklar]

uhh... neutral + neutral = stupid and useless? ?(
so... warrior guild + mage guild = stupid and useless? that\'s.... weird...
actually going down into maths...
(warrior guild + warrior guild = more power ^ warrior guild + warrior guild = stupid and useless) <=> more power = stupid and useless
...
?(

[lynx_lupo]

Strange math there. ?(

Neutral alliances are fine! Imagina an alliance of true neutral guilds, fighting together to keep the Balance. Nothing wrong with that. :rolleyes:

[Phinehas]

I agree with Lynx and Draklar. United neutral guilds make sense, just as much sense as anything, after all they have the same goal as each other as well.

[Ice_Phoenix]

Originally posted by Draklar
uhh... neutral + neutral = stupid and useless? ?(
so... warrior guild + mage guild = stupid and useless? that\'s.... weird...
actually going down into maths...
(warrior guild + warrior guild = more power ^ warrior guild + warrior guild = stupid and useless) <=> more power = stupid and useless
...
?(

Nice logic, Draklar! As 4 me, I think that Neutral Guilds Alliance makes some sence and it has a right to be. But what will it bring up??? That is totally another question.

When all Good and Evil guilds have almost the same aims (the triumf of Good or Evil), all Neutral Guilds have their own aims (AO - to become the center of Magic, Rangers - to preserve peace, etc). So the Union itself is possible. But what will be the aim of that Union...

[elscouta]

I don\'t think an union of all the neutral guilds is a good thing. Why?

- being allied with guilds you don\'t know is bad.
- i don\'t think it\'s a good thing for a guild A to have no choice but switch into war when one of the neutral guild B is attacked, for example if the guild A didn\'t like external guild B policy. And if you don\'t force guilds to switch into war, what\'s the point of the alliance.
- large alliances always break into pieces.
- it freeze all the diplomaty in all the guilds of the alliance.

[Axsyrus]

Yeah, all neutral guilds should now start a big alliance because it isn\'t stupid and useless!

Guilds are neutral because they don\'t care about other guilds, if they would like to balance things they should be good(in an evil world) or evil(in a good world).

\"more power = stupid and useless\" It is stupid and useless if your goal isn\'t to become powerfull..

anyways, I think guilds can make their own decisions.. AO is allied with rangers, 2 neutral guilds, we just don\'t need any fancy names