The Good Old Days

[Kiern]

Yeah Levski, your not really a newbie because you\'ve proven you can have an intelligent conversation even if you don\'t agree or do but don\'t understand/disagree on certain points...completely in my view, I stick people into the category of \"newbie\" until proven otherwise by the above, it just means I don\'t know enough to have an opinion on you/care what you say.

[Levski]

Thanks Aendar and Kiern, but it still goes to show that age (length of membership) does have a bit to do with it.  But the fact is, even if I(we) stick around for a couple of years, we still won\'t experience the things you experienced way in the beginnings of Planeshift.  So in a way, you guys, the oldies will still be oldies more than me(us).  But we will be oldies to another group of planeshifters.  So in a way that makes a midbies..  But no one can become an old oldbie because that slot is already taken by those faithful planeshifters who were here first.

Btw, see? Respect.

[AendarCallenlasse]

Yeah, but you will have your own experiences.  In two years the forums will changed from how they are today.  The times we had were special because they happened to us.  The times you guys have will be special for you too, just as equally as ours.

[Levski]

Thats my point though.  Oldies, midbies, and newbies are way to general.  Well newbies is a good term to describe new people.  But afterwards it would seem like everyone is fighting to become an oldie.  Maybe the current oldies might become Generation X, or something like that.......  and me and the rest of the people now could be Generation Y...... Or you could always come up with a nicer name for it.

Edit:  Well, now that you have me interested, im going to venture backwards through time to see what sorts of \'fun times\' you guys had before!

[AendarCallenlasse]

Exactly.  You will never know the things we have known or experience the things we have.  So in a sense you will never be an oldie like we are.  But you will be here long enough to categorize yourself in your own version of a label.

[Kada-El]

Well said Aendar, you will have your own experience of this community and one day will share those memories with others like you. Those that have something valuable to contribute to this community will easily earn the respect of everyone else and swiftly be respected, regardless of how long they have been around.

We will always share something special with those that were around at a similar time, but that doesn\'t mean we can\'t appreciate what somebody new can bring to us

EDIT: bah these posts are right, you guys do post too quick

[Kixie]

Originally posted by Kiern
Yeah Levski, your not really a newbie because you\'ve proven you can have an intelligent conversation even if you don\'t agree or do but don\'t understand/disagree on certain points...completely in my view, I stick people into the category of \"newbie\" until proven otherwise by the above, it just means I don\'t know enough to have an opinion on you/care what you say.

And thats why IM a peanut!!!1 Hehe...

[Levski]

Thats a good way to put it.  I hope that we\'ll (me and everyone else here) get to know each other better too, and share our own special times here.  

This discussion already shows how nice people are here and how much its worth it to discuss things with the older people, even if they do point their tongues out !

[Monketh]

Hm, Generational classing.  I like that idea!
Each person forms his(or her) own story in the community.

Now let me point out something: The online community\'s system is similar to that of the Boy Scouts.  Believe it or not this is true!
In Boy Scouting as a boy matures he gains respect.  He also gains rank, of course.  But, the respect is more important, when one of the older guys tells you to do something, you do it.  When one of your generation tells you to do something, you might not, because he may not have even as much respect as yourself.
Now as you know this is what happens in most online communities, Oldbies are famous, powerful, respected figures.  If they are not, then they are not oldbies.  
That\'s why I like a \"Generational\" thing, because that\'s kinda how it works...

[AendarCallenlasse]

You newer people need to do this with the other newer people.  We had the experiences we had because we stuck together and we interacted.  The problem with the newer people here is that you\'re too scattered.  Probably because there are too many of you to really get together and communicate.  But if you did pull together and made yourself a real community you\'ll be able to do what we are doing here in time.

[Levski]

Maybe... but maybe not.  Personally I feel that any community we would make would be missing something if it didnt involve the older players to some extent.    I dont think it would be right for you guys to remain aloof from us...

[AendarCallenlasse]

Oh we will still be here.  Looka t this thread for instance.  But we already are a community.  You guys need to pull together and bring the other newer people into a community and we will be there.

[Kada-El]

It\'s true, the community should always involve the older players, but those players must also accept the new ones coming in. That said, CB will bring in a whole new wave of very new players and we will see all kinds of people come here, as we do with every new release. Brace yourself for a spam wave like you\'ve never seen

[Levski]

Sounds like a challenge to me!  I thrive on them .  That is, if they fit into my work schedule .  I think that in a way, the Blitzers have done a lot of this already.  Since we allow most people to be in our guild who ask, we create a friendly atmosphere for newbies and the like.  For instance, the Blitzers forum has a lot of interaction between newer players.  Actually I think thats what happened to a lot of sensible new players.  Imho, they joined guilds and now feel like they have a duty only to talk to their guildmembers.  Or, they are content with just that.  So that makes it just a bit harder to make a complete community....

Btw, how many people play planeshift total, do you think?

Edit: ah!  Kada, your becoming a \'too fast\' replier too!

[Xalthar]

Originally posted by Kada-El
It\'s true, the community should always involve the older players, but those players must also accept the new ones coming in. That said, CB will bring in a whole new wave of very new players and we will see all kinds of people come here, as we do with every new release. Brace yourself for a spam wave like you\'ve never seen

wether or not you choose to accept new people, they will flood here nonetheless.. it\'s a free game, and if that isn\'t one hell of a player magnet, I\'m not sure what it is..

I do not in any way doubt that you had fun when you were only a select few here, bonds and friends are made in such times.. Even though I can\'t boast with the fact of having been here for as long as some of you, I still have made \"my own\" tight knit community of what I like to call friends.. So the qualities have in no way diminished over the years, they have just become \"different\". I was awestruck by this project, and still am in some way, and the friends I\'ve made here are friends I\'d like to keep, and no doubt new people will come, and perhaps leave, I shall accept them anyhow..