The Good Old Days

[AendarCallenlasse]

Actually play the game?  Less than a hundred I\'d say.  

I feel like we\'re passing the torch here...we pass on our legacy to you.  I\'m sure things will change with the community once the game is further along though.

[Levski]

Passing the torch??  I wouldnt want that!! Your not going to leave are you?  You guys are part of what make the game appealing, you know.   Imho, you guys are the hub of a big wheel.  Sure other people could eventually take your place, but it would never be the same!  And Aendar, by restarting your guild, it seems to me like it will become a clash where older players will interact with newer players.. which is good!

[AendarCallenlasse]

I wouldn\'t leave PS.  I\'ve put too much time and energy into PS to just up and leave completely.  I just mean that our numbers are diminishing so it can\'t be left up to us to make the community grow and continue.  It\'s up to you guys to do that.

[Levski]

Oh ok, whew.....  It seems like I misunderstood.  So what made the good old days so special, besides the close knit group of members?  Surely it must have been more than that.

[Kada-El]

Originally posted by Xalthar
no doubt new people will come, and perhaps leave, I shall accept them anyhow..

You may accept them, but no doubt you will be one of the first to flame them to hell and back again

[Sir Fishy]

Originally posted by AendarCallenlasse
I just mean that our numbers are diminishing so it can\'t be left up to us to make the community grow and continue.  It\'s up to you guys to do that.

So AendarCallenlasse do you think your numbers are diminishing because people are sick of waiting for the game? or is it possible alot of peole will return once full version is realized(which from what i gather could be along time from now)? ive noticed that a few of the older players post more than 2-3 times a day. Also i dont remeber who said it but i think that people dont recodnize some of the people in game because eather they dont use the froums or they use a diffrent name in game, i mean i put Sir Fishy as my forum name but use Deathswipe in game though i did put my in-game name on my sig. I also see that no matter how big these forums get which will probubly be huge that you guys (AendarCallenlasse, Xalthar,Kada-El, Monketh, whemyfield, Kiern and whoever else i neglected to metion, alot i suppose) but i find that i see alot of you people on the forums daily. i mean ive been here maybe a 2 weeks at most and i already am learning your personalities Ie. savion talks in 3rd peson alot, whemy is good at flaming, and Aender hates anyone who disagrees with him. lol and i a waaay noob. well theres how i see the oldies noobies stuff. sorry for the long post  

Kada-El- I think whemy will be the first to flmae most people, he flamed me first.

Edit- God you people post in a matter of seconds it seems

[AendarCallenlasse]

People have left for a number of reasons.  The biggest being the long wait.  I mean some of us have been here for years and that\'s a long time to wait.  Another reason is the state of the forums.  The number of users has grown dramatically and the number of forum moderators has decreased so things have gotten out of hand on the forums.

[Sir Fishy]

So, why doesnt Acraig or whoever runs the forums apoint trust worthey player mods to keep them under control i mean morgua or however her name is spelled does a great job but can be everywear at once, i mean players like whemy could do it but he flames everyone for anything and everything(no offence just using you as an example) but players like you AendarCallenlasse would be good because you have a good understanding of the forums, but this is my opinion. But so no one gets mad at me Mods you do the best jobs you can do with these massive forums. :]

[AendarCallenlasse]

The idea has been pitched but they choose to ignore us.  I don\'t know why but they just don\'t like us suggesting how to make the forums better.  Strange but that\'s the way it is.  I would be a mod, but I dunno if they\'d want me running around on a power trip.  That could be bad.  Plus I would probably be very heavy-handed with most people.  But I do think that more people should be given Mod status.

[Kada-El]

Originally posted by Sir Fishy
Kada-El- I think whemy will be the first to flmae most people, he flamed me first fallowed closely by darklar though.

You know you may have a point there. I\'m not sure why but everytime I seem to read a post by Whemy, he\'s either having a go at someone or putting down an idea - what\'s the matter Whemy? At first I didn\'t think you were like that. C\'mon share the pain, what\'s up?

Anywho, numbers diminish for so many reasons - real life gets in the way, people find other games, people get bored etc. But I think you may be right Fishy, we will see many old players return for the new version and for subsequent versions, along with the influx of new players. We must be open to changes, because they will surely come and they\'re not easy to stop!

EDIT: Damn you managed to get a couple of posts in there again

[Sir Fishy]

Originally posted by AendarCallenlasse
The idea has been pitched but they choose to ignore us.  I don\'t know why but they just don\'t like us suggesting how to make the forums better.  Strange but that\'s the way it is.  I would be a mod, but I dunno if they\'d want me running around on a power trip.  That could be bad.  Plus I would probably be very heavy-handed with most people.  But I do think that more people should be given Mod status.

lol yes power trips are bad, especailly if they fell into the wrong hands and were given ban powers. I cant imagine the chaos that would ensue, espeacilly if people like Savion were given those powers he\'d probubly make us all bow to him 10 times aday 8o.

ontopic- lol wow im a noobie who thought up somthing that has been thought up before, i mean if they want to interact more with people i guess moderating gives them a reason to half to search the forums but they just seem to be slow to react Not trying to be mean or get myself banned or whatever but truth be told they are. oh well maybe we\'ll see more with the next realse flood everyone is talking about...or maybe not.

God why do you people post so fast! lol i probubly said half of what kada-el said  ;(

[Kixie]

Why am i the stereotypical flamer? Name 10 times i have flamed somebody that wasnt the sentence \"this has been posted before\" or something to that relation. Bassically I posted and people have misunderstood me and just gone all out and flamed ME. Im just a normal everyday poster. I dont want to be mean, but because i have been accused of flaming so manytimes people take it upon themselves to tell me im a dick head and i should shut up and that my oppinion is WRONG. Which last time i heard was worse than a flame. Really i dont care though. Flame me all you want but thats not how the forums work. I will always be here, even if you dont agree with me. So just suck it up, stop looking for reasons to blame me and get on with your life. That kind of attitude usually gets rewarded in more ways than on forum boards.

But i do have one thing to say about crystal blue. Really its going to HAVE to be a dissapointment. After 2 months tops its going to feel like molecular blue. Theres no way around it. Then nearing the next release (whatever-blue) people will ask the same questions all over again (when is the due date?, when is this feature going to be implemented?, how do I crouch?) and some of us are going to be sitting in our chairs thinking \"I remember when that was asked before crystal blue and even molecular blue\". And ya know what else? Someone is going to make a thread just like this on the forum boards. And someone just like me may post a post almost identical to this.

But those are my opinions. and someone with thier opinions are going to blame me for interfering with theirs. And im just going to leave before i work my self into an uncontrollable spasm.

[Sir Fishy]

whemy i used your name because everyone says you flame them... but okay ill stop calling you a flamer my apologies. hmm this is a spam bad fish bad bad fish my apologies for this SPAM.  as well. ;(

[Draklar]

well ok, that\'s better. umm...


edit: *nudges Venge*
you skipped meh message >.<
there, I\'ll make it more visible for ya

[Vengeance]

I agree that it is fun to reminisce about the \'old days\' when PS was brand new and remember the people who used to post then.  Obviously as a mod I disagree that we mods do a crappy job modding these forums. :-)

My theory on why the old guard aren\'t around as much is because from their standpoint everything that can be said has been said.  Every wish list item has been debated ad nauseam.  Every n00b question has been answered 100 times.  Even Kada gets impatient with them now.

CB\'s release will definitely bring a new flood of newbies and morons to these forums, but it will also bring new things for us all to talk about.  And from that, some of the new people will prove themselves and be accepted by the happy few who have stuck around all this time.

But it is important to realize that the \"community\" is definitely a fluid, changing thing.  Holding on to the past because of its familiarity, and criticizing the present because of its lack of familiarity is not a recipe for satisfaction on a forum or in life.

As a long time dev, I am very glad that some people have stuck with us (even off and on) this long.  Seeing their hopes from 2 years ago fulfilled now instead of watching their hopes dashed like the dust from 1000 dead vapor free projects that disappeared 2 months later gives me a lot of satisfaction.  I appreciate all the new people who find us--it isn\'t their fault they didn\'t find us in 2001 or 2002--but I appreciate the oldbies as well.

- Vengeance

p.s. Now if I can just get the oldbies to talk about something other than forum moderation policies...  :-)