The Good Old Days

[AendarCallenlasse]

Yeah I can definently see Whemy as the crazy old guy down the street, yelling at all the kids as they pass by.

[Kixie]

Originally posted by AendarCallenlasse
Yeah I can definently see Whemy as the crazy old guy down the street, yelling at all the kids as they pass by.

Yup that\'ll be me, Crazy uncle Whemy. With his radical ideas of a flying machine to touch the crystal at the top of ylakium...

\"You kids don\'t know how hard it was to get weapons in my day! Took me 3 months to get a damn mug! And i had to hold it upside down too! Damn Youngin\'s, Think they have it rough! Why We didnt have a map either! If you wanted to know how far somewhere was you had to go up to the temple, run at it and keep jumping! I\'ve still got scars on my knees! When ya finally got up there you had to squint REAL hard and find your destination! *rants about how excessive yard is too small*\"

[Winterheaven]

I don\'t understand the discussion.

When i realized the first posts, i thought of these people, which can not live in the actual time. People, who think, that in the past all was better. People, who can not even enjoy growing up their children and hope, they will make it better... Does the human being not grow on its problems?

Later posts come out with the statement, that the old days had fewer forum members. And fewer forum members means more fun. Cause everybody knows everybody...  What makes it difficult to live, laugh and play in a bigger community?

The next posts were about statements like: oldies = experienced, play good RP, are friendly; newbies = not really active, only want to be a hero, playing only for crystal hunting... How can you bring such \"status\" down to any forum member?

Am i a Newbie, because of my few posts? But if i do not have to say something? If i set great store by quality?

Am I a Newbie, because of the age? But i am 33...

Am I a Newbie, because only visited the server two times. But perhaps I would only have a look, only meet some role players?

I have a look at the forum as often as  I can. And if there are some interisting things (like the big thread of Golbez\' pure RP), i do write some own thoughts... like now.

Yours, Winterheaven <- a NEWBIE

[Kixie]

Originally posted by Winterheaven
Am I a Newbie, because only visited the server two times. But perhaps I would only have a look, only meet some role players? the age? But i am 33...

What??

[AendarCallenlasse]

No no Winterheaven, as some of us stated, being a newbie isn\'t all about how long you have been here.  I consider someone a newbie if they are immature and useless to the community.  Examples of this are people such as Levski.  He hasn\'t been here a long time but he came to this thread and had an intelligent conversation.  In my book he is not a newbie, nor would I consider you a newbie because you could do the same.  Yes I will always feel less friendly towards people who haven\'t been here as long but I don\'t disregard them just because they are new.  The sad truth is that most new players are immature and come here only to spam and flame other players, so the term newbie becomes a negative term.

[Sir Fishy]

winterheaven, i think they are using the term newbie of obnoxious annoying people....but i could be wrong. lol i am a newbie also but a \"cool newbie(well atleast in my box i am)\" i think newbie is more determined by matureity i mean the more mature you act the more respect you\'ll get. i mean im 14 (prolly easy to tell by my idioticness) but i have a semi imature level of thinking. But others like Levski who appear really mature i think people judge more by this then by anthing i could be wrong....


LOL i can imagine Whemy yelling at Anyone to stay off his lawn and shaking a rotting wooden staff and shooting off target spells... but back on topic..

Edit: God You posted a sencond before me AendarCallenlasse and Kiern i beat you by a few senconds Haha  

[Kiern]

Winterheaven, read more then the first few pages...it is defined what we are talking about later..yes, you are a newbie at some points, as that you are new to planeshift...and your age has nothing to do with it...

I also think it\'s obvious that the oldie\'s are not generally looked upon as nice, also that we made a point in saying that there is nothing bad necessarily about being a newbie, just that most new ones that post happen to be annoying (maybe one or two posted in the way you are saying, but definately not the majority to generalize like that)...get your facts straight before posting man.

[Winterheaven]

Arrgh, @Kiern. I wouldn\'t anger you. I read the pages... I read the posts. And i want only a decleration of the term. And I got it.

AendarCallenlasse: I consider someone a newbie if they are immature and useless to the community.

Nothing more to say... hopefully i am not too useless...

Yours, Winterheaven <- still a NEWBIE

BTW, is Levski really a welcomed NOT-Newbie, because of its \"intelligent conversation\" or perhaps because of its flatteries for the oldies? *nictitates*

[dfryer]

It\'s alllll about the flattery.

[AendarCallenlasse]

Flatteries?
Well I am avery egotistical person, but I don\'t think that stop the newer players from having a little respect for us older players.  All of the oldbies have been around PS since before there was a game to play.  We\'ve supported the PS team for years so I think a little respect is due.  Levski has shown respect for us but he isn\'t immature.  See now players such as whemyfield, he has been here for a little while, but I have more respect for Levski than I do for Whemy (Sorry Whemy).  Why?  Because Whemy is immature, Levski is not.  If you can come to PS and actually converse with the older players without flaming anyone or spamming then you gain favor with us.

I don\'t care if someone questions me.  Anyone can say that I\'m wrong that doesn\'t mean I will automatically hate them.  that is if it is done in an intelligent manner.

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Winterheaven
And i want only a decleration of the term. And I got it.

That\'s the problem, there is no clear declaration of the word newbie, it means something different to everyone...it just depends on where you are coming from as to whether you take offense to it or not.

Originally posted by Winterheaven
BTW, is Levski really a welcomed NOT-Newbie, because of its \"intelligent conversation\" or perhaps because of its flatteries for the oldies? *nictitates*

Not for me no, I really hate flattery actually...exact opposite of the way I think (if that\'s not apparent )

[Kixie]

I get no respect around here O well *eats pie and yells at children to get off his lawn*

[dfryer]

Whemy just likes to have fun
I don\'t think that \"newbie\" necessarily has negative connotations, I think it can be used to designate someone who doesn\'t know the \"personalities\" of the board too well.

On the other hand, some people come to the boards without stopping and considering that what they are saying may have already been said many, many times.  I think that, more than anything, is what frustrates people.

[sashok]

I think there shouldn\'t be any classifications such as newbs, oldies, etc.  As long as you follow rules, don\'t post in wrong forums, act immature, you will do fine.  no need to discriminate people that just came in.  And there\'s no need to give yourself more respect just because you have been wasting your life here longer

[dfryer]

Classifications will inevitably arise - they aren\'t set in stone, but people tend to categorize things (including other people).  It\'s just an efficient way of dealing with a lot of information.  Inevitably, I will respect some people more than others simply because they strike me as worthy of respect.  

I don\'t think real discrimination based on newness is prevalent on these forums - people with intelligent things to say are listened to.  On the other hand, I think people who have been around longer are more likely to be able to get away with a spammy comment or two.