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Stalactite levels, different environments
« on: March 13, 2004, 01:56:22 am »
I was looking at the map of the PlaneShift world (in this thread) and noticed that the Stalactite (Yliakum) had different levels.
That gave me an idea, why don\'t the different levels have different environments. Like one level is like the current level, ones a tropical jungle, one has snow or is arctic, ones a desert, etc.
This would add alot of variety to the game and would allow more RPing potential.

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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2004, 02:01:05 am »
I think the devs are planning something like this, though maybe not an arctic place, since were underground.

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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2004, 02:18:35 am »
Read this: http://www.planeshift.it/setting_overview.html

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Yliakum is located thousands of meters under the surface inside a huge excavated stalactite, hanging inside a cave so huge that it could contain any kingdom of the surface. For this reason it is structured in grades - like Dante\'s Inferno - and each grade is smaller than the former. There are eight grades, or levels. The two highest levels are above the point where the stalactite connects to the roof of the cave.


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The Crystal that brings light to Yliakum is an enormous raw stone of purest transparency and analogous to the sapphire that hangs from the roof of the stalactite\'s internal cave.

Named the Azure Sun by those races that still remember the surface, it emits a radiation that is more towards infrared if compared to the light of the sun, but is suitable for photosynthesis and survival of many animals, vegetables, and mineral species. This radiation decays with squared progression with the distance. At the seventh level the radiation is just enough to penetrate the mass of the lake in order to light it, while on the first level it is so strong that it allows wonderful crops and the breeding of great cattle, which provide milk and meat.


No completely different environments like subtropic/arctic, there\'s a difference though.

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the weatherman didnt know whether the weather was going to be nice
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2004, 10:36:21 pm »
ah but if there are no clouds it cannot snow or rain,  and if it does never go below zero, wich i think it doesnt looking at the clothing of diaboli et cetera and if it did go below zero anytime i dont think there would be races living under the sea as that would prove to be impossible if there would be any kind of \'winter\' but, it is somehow connected to the surface through the crystal, but if indeed there is such thing as a winter in the world wich the giant stalactite is in wich i think it would have to be that is if it revolves around a sun.
but then it would be a little dark when it is snowing on the surface cause of the snow blocking the crystal, unless of course the crystal is hot and the snow would melt... but then it wouldnt be possible for the stalactite to get to such coldness as the crystal wouldnt get so cold as to -1? wich is required for freezing.

there, ive made my point...

unless of course there is too much magick in the air for those pesky laws of nature...

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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2004, 10:50:15 pm »
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1. Since when are there no clouds in Yliakum?

2. The crystal is a giant column, so it would be rather hard for snow or anything else to stop the sun from shining through it.

3. Yliakum is underground, therefore the temperature cannot drop under 0.. the warmth that\'s created by the crystal can\'t escape.

and 4. what the hell are you trying to say ?(

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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2004, 11:18:34 pm »
AHA the temperature cant drop below zero therefore there can be no snow because as everybody knows that snow is just frozen rain, and rain does not freeze unless it drops below zero.

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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2004, 11:55:06 pm »
Who says it can\'t snow or rain?

It rains when it rains on the surface of the planet. How? Water filters down and eventually drops down from the top of the cave.

As well, heat rises up and cold air drops down. Some of the lower levels may have ice because the AIR is -0*C. (water freezes in mid-air) And as well, who says that the ground isn\'t below 0*C? Water hitting a frozen surface will freeze, too.

Rain in the hot and temperate air temperature levels will probably not freeze - but it might freeze on the levels where the cooler air is denser. and rain may also freeze when it hits the ground, forming ice.

As well, magic may always play a part in it. Tropical/Jungle/Coniferous forrests arn\'t entirely impossible, either. The way i see the levels ecosystems going is:
From highest level to below waterlevel:

Wastelands (No life whatsoever. Not even a single rodent)
Deserts
Savana
Jungle / Tropical }Main habitat for many species
Coniferous Forrests }Main habitat for many species
Forrests / Grasslands }Main habitat for many species
Cold Grasslands
Snowy
Glacial
Water level (Warm)
Water level (Moderate)
Water level (Cold)
Water level (Ice - Cant really go any deeper though some water can continue through small cracks)

And remember that there WOULD be other lakes/bodies of water on each level, though for the upper three that is very unlikely. As well, enviroments are not \"This level is grassland, and only grassland!\" - there is some play inbetween levels.

And, my reasoning for this setup is that the upper levels receive the greatest average amount of types of radiation comming from the crystal - thus a barren wasteland since nearly nothing can handle that much radiation. The lower levels receive the least average amount of radiation from the crystal and thus have less heat transfer and because of that are very, VERY, cold.


[Besides - How fun do you think Planeshift would be if it were all forrests and grasslands? ;) ]
« Last Edit: March 13, 2004, 11:56:09 pm by Saphire »
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too many levels
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2004, 12:08:57 am »
arent you forgetting that there are only 7 levels not 13

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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2004, 12:21:21 am »
enviroments can overlap, you know. :P
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2004, 12:23:50 am »
im not english so could you please explain what you mean by overlapping?
do you mean like there are two enviroments in one level?

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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2004, 12:51:05 am »
THERE WILL BE NO SNOW IN PS.

ok? :)

PS. these are the words from the devs..
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2004, 10:01:53 pm »
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im not english so could you please explain what you mean by overlapping?
do you mean like there are two enviroments in one level?


Correct.

And it really bums me out if the devs actually said that there\'ll be no snow... ;(
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2004, 10:08:03 pm »
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THERE WILL BE NO SNOW IN PS.

ok? :)

PS. these are the words from the devs..


Does that mean ever or not at this time.

Wouldn\'t it be possible to have a portal that goes to another world that is cold (in the far future)?

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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2004, 01:09:26 am »
No snow sucks :( Snow is fun! maybe in the distant future. I really hope they implement snow eventually.

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2004, 02:31:50 am »
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Originally posted by Axsyrus
THERE WILL BE NO SNOW IN PS.

ok? :)

PS. these are the words from the devs..


Does that mean ever or not at this time.

Wouldn\'t it be possible to have a portal that goes to another world that is cold (in the far future)?

HE said PS as in planeshift. the game. not the version cb, or whatever comes after it. never. got it?