Laser Magic

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Kuiper7986
A fireball like a meteor?

how about fireball like a fireball? As in.... ball of fire
meteor is completely different spell...

[karakth]

Hmm I think what determines the way(s) needed to make a spell are from what elements it is made up, not what it will result in (I think this was your pont, Ax). A laser is made up of light and heat so crystal and red.

Of course then there\'s always infrared radiation, but go figure :-/

Anyway, since the fireball example didn\'t seem to quite fit, how about illusions? Azure, obviously. But aren\'t illusions the manipulation of light, which would then be crystal way?

[Draklar]

how about not looking at how it is made up neither what does it result with, but actually what it is?
laser = beam of light
fireball = ball of fire

some spells, sure, could use more ways, but when we talk about laser:
you can\'t put it under fire magic - it isn\'t fire, it\'s light
you can\'t put it under Red Way - laser isn\'t chaotic nor furious.

[Kuiper7986]

He just wanted to know how was this fireball made? So I gave a few ways how a fireball could be made, because right now no has actually defined a \"fireball,\" yet.

EDIT: Oh yah and Drak has a point, its a fantasy game, no one every really said that if there was a laser beam it would cause a fire. Maybe on impact it causes lots of particles or something to explode like fireworks or something.

[Kiva]

Let us remind ourselves that the Crystal Way is not holy/divine stuff. Yes, it\'s famous for it\'s ability to cure and heal, but let\'s not forget the last sentence of the Crystal Way settings:

\"Nonetheless there are many powerful offensive spells, particularly effective against evil and dark creatures.\"

This does NOT make the Crystal Way all holy and such, however the spells are simply more effective against an evil or dark creature than other creatures. This, however, doesn\'t mean that it doesn\'t hurt them. Oh no... It\'ll hurt.

As for the laser stuff.

Laser is light. If you shoot a laser through a prism, it is split into colors, therefor it is light. It is a very strong light however, and this is why it burns things, however it has nothing to do with fire. It is a known fact that if something gets hot enough, it burns, but that doesn\'t mean it\'s made of fire.

[Dalec]

What is the point of this thread? First of all, who cares what kind of spell a laser is. Second, are they even supposed to be in game? Third, I hope not. Fourth, if they are, the devs will make them whatever type of spell they feel it should be. No offense but this thread seems like somone was just trying to increase their post count or something, because that question is completely pointless.

[Draklar]

who cares what kind of spell a laser is

people that took part in the discussion?
If you don\'t like it, don\'t read it... geez...[/color]

[Nikech]

Originally posted by Dalec
What is the point of this thread?

A great example of a normal thread, it starts out just fine, discussing about laser spell this time, but then it degenerates into discussing something that has little to do with the original subject, like fireballs and such. And finally the thread looks like this, we\'re discussing what\'s the point of the thread...

[karakth]

Meh, back to lasers.

Ok, so, does everyone agree it needs only crystal glyphs to cast?

Good, end of discussion.

P.S. Yes, this means I concede and agree that it is purely crystal, very good points raised there

[Thardin]

Crystal is indeed the best choice for a laser spell as far as I am concerned with magic.

Since not all laser beams are red, but also green, blue etc (don\'t know if they\'re filtered then or if you can make laser beams of another color) you could have specialized laser spells for different ways.

[slabertooch]

well Thardin, the color of a laser is all dependant on the gas medium used in the excitement chamber.  ie a gas argon laser.  There are solid state lasers out there but they are little more than high intensity flashlight in a narrow spectrum band.  just a fyi

[XpYtZ]

To beat a dead horse.
Webster?s Dictionary (for the English equivalent of the word LASER)

Pronunciation: \'lA-z&r
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation
: a device that utilizes the natural oscillations of atoms or molecules between energy levels for generating coherent electromagnetic radiation usually in the ultraviolet, visible, or infrared regions of the spectrum

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To sum up: Light and the electromagnetic impulses that of.
Crystal would be my thought for a Way. As for the original question (light or dark, meaning good or bad/chaotic or organized.) I?d have to be in with the light side since, in the case of ?L4+?, a laser needs to be extremely organized in order to function properly.
This being a fantasy game though, I think ?laser-esque? spells can go, well?wherever they want!

P.S.Congrats to Draklar for a point well made.
And slabertooch. Jeez thats crazy man.

[zinder]

Originally posted by slabertooch
well Thardin, the color of a laser is all dependant on the gas medium used in the excitement chamber.  ie a gas argon laser.  There are solid state lasers out there but they are little more than high intensity flashlight in a narrow spectrum band.  just a fyi

AFAIK solid state lasers are able to be as powerfull as gas lasers. The problem is most solid state lasers use crystals( for example rubin) which are expensive to produce in the needed quality and size for a strong solid state laser.
Also you produce the beam by pulsing the medium with light.

So I think lasers should be only in crystal way. The highly ordered structure of the beam itself and that the heat is only a secondary effect are against the the red way.

[druke]

jsut what do these lasers do and how do they do it?! that would determine the way, simple as that

[Draklar]

1) they harm
2) by being a powerful beams of light?
and this doesn\'t change anything... it was proven few times that it\'s just Crystal Way...

slabertooch: isn\'t a 700 KB sig a bit.... crazy?