Author Topic: do you think the US is getting carried away?  (Read 2201 times)

Vengeance

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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2004, 07:10:37 pm »
Note that the artists (with some exceptions) really aren\'t the ones against this file sharing.  It is the RIAA, which is the recording studio business.  They are the ones who make money from the CD sales.

Artists make most of their money either from radio play royalties or from concert appearances.  Contrary to CD sales, artists fund their own concert tours, pay for their own stage, roadies, light show, etc. and thus make all the money from the ticket sales on the tour.

Older artists get zero radio play, don\'t sell that many albums (where are they on the charts) but make huge $.  This url shows that Bruce Springsteen made $115.9 million last year on tour.  Celine Dion made $80.5 million.

Dave Matthews made > $50 million last summer in his concert tour.  Shania Twain and Toby Keith each made > $45 million.  

The numbers are really staggering.  With albums bringing in <$1 per sale, and big albums only selling a million copies or so (most much less), license revenue for the artists is really negligible.  Albums and radio are both really just ways to get people to come to your concerts.

Thus, P2P file sharing makes more free advertising for the musicians and can only increase how many people go to a particular concert--benefitting the artists but hurting the recording companies.

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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2004, 08:48:13 pm »
I completely agree with Vengeance:

Here\'s the link to a (old) article from an american artist: http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html about this.
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2004, 08:56:48 pm »
Also, the money the RIAA claims to lose is not right. If you have 3 illegal cds, that doesn\'t mean you would have bought them legally if you weren\'t able to download them. I have quite some mp3\'s, but if i had to buy them all legally I probably wouldn\'t have 10% of em. So the actual money they are losing is much smaller then they claim.
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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2004, 10:59:35 pm »
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Originally posted by Vengeance
Note that the artists (with some exceptions) really aren\'t the ones against this file sharing.  It is the RIAA, which is the recording studio business.  They are the ones who make money from the CD sales.


Totally true, there are some (indie) labels that are putting their bands entire cds up for free download to support their bands...and band members constantly are sending music downloads to their friends to put their own music up for download...I know for a fact I would know maybe only 2 of the bands I currently listen to if I had not been able to download music...much less find their cds anywhere if I DID know them.
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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2004, 06:25:40 pm »
Of course they are going to far.
I would post my thoughts on this subject, but I do not have 45 minutes on my hands right now, so I\'ll just sum it up in one easy-to-understand phrase:

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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2004, 09:28:22 pm »
great article elscouta.  after reading that, i cant really think of anything to add as it says all that i think of this...  I was going to say something else, but im too tired to remember what that was.  ?(


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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2004, 05:00:19 am »
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Of course they are going to far.
I would post my thoughts on this subject, but I do not have 45 minutes on my hands right now, so I\'ll just sum it up in one easy-to-understand phrase:

hi2u polizie-state!


I would have prefered the \"45 minute\" post