SH Disbanding... Happy now ?

[Sangwa]

 A real spying challenge is to use your own char to spy like Annah did. Or try to research about the guild a bit, try to persuade some1 within the guild to give in some info, make some deals with some1 already in the guild. This is the hard way, but it is better in the RP way. Of course making an alt is easier and gets good results and it\'s kind of harmless when people don\'t take it to far.
 To enter a guild and not just spy but creating bounds with its leader which are going to be broke, it\'s not quite spying it\'s more like FrEAKinG sabotage(Well you can also sabotage with your own current char like Annah =P, At least with your own char you are having enough courage to show your face while and after doing it). Well spying is good, if you don\'t get too involved with the leader you unhearted creeps. Well I would ask for the name of one of this spies, just to be sure your not doing what Ionas thinks your doing , wait make it 3 names, 1 isn\'t enough to prove anything =P.

[Yann]

I thought Davis (alias Shadowmancer) would be ashamed and courageous enough to say it by himself.
Once again, i was wrong.

I am considering several offers from various guilds and organisations at the moment. I may join one of them, and I hope I will make a good choice, this time
Once again, only time will say.

Many thanks to all of you for your support  

[Draklar]

well well well... so our mirthfull fellow turns out to be master alt\'er, eh?

[DepthBlade]

Would rather that this game just stays away from the whole spy experience, makes some people paranoid *looks around quickly*!

[druke]

aye, espionage is ok, but alt spying is not,

good luck choosing a guild Errion

[Xordan]

alt spying isn\'t?? But lets look at real life... 3/4 of spies are \'alt\' spies. It works the best, and who says u can\'t have 2 different names?? If u can\'t tell who\'s a spy and who\'s not, then tough cookie. Cabal seems to manage it fine.

[Draklar]

Xordan, does pre-alpha tech-demo say anything to you? How about skills not implemented yet?
Yea, that pretty much means that game isn\'t ready yet and all that alt-spying is out of game.
Oh, did you ever notice that in real life there\'s free \"pvp\" everywhere? Well guess what? It\'s not in Planeshift 8o :rolleyes:
Now quit comparing this to real life. I have serious doubts if changing IP was measurement of being good spy in medieval times :rolleyes:
Oh, and just a guess... the 3/4 had some spying skills, didn\'t they? Show me how much ingame skills those alt-spies have. Yes, it\'s a game with its rules (if you didn\'t notice).
And one more point about real life. When you\'re observed a lot, whatever your disguise will be, someone might discover from your looks that you\'re a spy. That\'s one of points of being secret. Sorry, but cabal is observed quite a lot. I don\'t think you have anything to say here.

[Caldazar]

Originally posted by Xordan
alt spying isn\'t?? But lets look at real life... 3/4 of spies are \'alt\' spies.

In real life, alot of spies are killed. Let\'s do that aswell!

[Tibber]

Why else would I call myself evil? But the fact is that I am doing nothing out of the scope of any MMORPG. I am not hacking or threatening or harassing anyone etc.


The Cabal started with the aim of destroying guilds and that is what it does. Players cannot be destroyed nor can the community they form.


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I have been eyeballing this game for quite a while now.

I was thinking it would be a great game.

However, I currently play EverQuest and I am in a great guild.

My guildmates are so close to eachother that they meet

in Texas USA at least once per year IRL.

So to me just being in my guild defines me having fun

in game.

This dude here is saying that his guild is the destroyer

of other guilds? then has the balls to say hes not

harassing noone? if someone came on my server

and by useing lies and childish pranks and tactics

to disrupt adn even disband my FAMILY, i think you

would be in direct violation of my rights to enjoy

my online experience, call it roleplay or whatever

you like. but to me it is still just as harmful and i may

feel the need to track you down IRL and have a lil talk.

There is no way possible to ruin someone elses fun

or violate them and their friends wether online or

IRL and then try to hide behind that RP line.


Well for about a year now i thought this might be THE

game for me, but after hearing about whole the guilds

ninja eachother with total disregard to community

and to themselves, looks like another 3 years of EQ for

me.


This woulda been a great game too bad the guilds

had to go and screw it all up


Take care all

Try to stay safe


Tibber Goldenheart

60th Season Paladin

Drinal

[Ionas]

Originally posted by Yann
I am considering several offers from various guilds and organisations at the moment. I may join one of them, and I hope I will make a good choice, this time
Once again, only time will say.

What is your status now? Have you decided yet what you\'re going to do? You do realise you are in a good position to bargain with these guilds right? There are multiple offers, you have experience in running a guild and knowledge the other guilds might not have.

[Xordan]

Who said anything about changing IP? Most of my spies are ingame, and signed upto other guilds. Noticed how the Cabal has a low count on it\'s member list ingame? You can\'t be in more than two guilds, and all my spies have one character. My guys just feed back info to me from the guild they\'re in. Of course, they have a different name as far as being in Cabal, aka \'alt\'.

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Xordan
Noticed how the Cabal has a low count on it\'s member list ingame?

now how am I supposed to notice that, fellow?
anyway, Tibber stated it quite well... and you answered only one of my points...

[Xordan]

btw, it was Mirth which destroyed SH.

Anyway, I believe that a few months ago you were spouting summin along the lines of guilds not being able to split up due to spies, that friendship and stuff would prevail etc. etc. And then we asked how you can know who\'s your friend or not, how did you know who you were actually talking to, but no, you had to be right and us wrong. Looks like you were proved wrong.

Other points??

[druke]

Originally posted by Ionas

Originally posted by Yann
I am considering several offers from various guilds and organisations at the moment. I may join one of them, and I hope I will make a good choice, this time
Once again, only time will say.

What is your status now? Have you decided yet what you\'re going to do? You do realise you are in a good position to bargain with these guilds right? There are multiple offers, you have experience in running a guild and knowledge the other guilds might not have.

thats if he joins a newb guild, most likely he will choose something along the lines of OI, CV, heck maybe even AO

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Xordan
Anyway, I believe that a few months ago you were spouting summin along the lines of guilds not being able to split up due to spies, that friendship and stuff would prevail etc. etc. And then we asked how you can know who\'s your friend or not, how did you know who you were actually talking to, but no, you had to be right and us wrong. Looks like you were proved wrong.

oh really? \'twas me? how about checkig some threads then? Because I said only damage you can do in Defenders is to show that a friend was really a traitor. Almost sorry to make you look like a fool.
...I didn\'t like Mirth anyway...
anyway, I wonder when I\'ll hear answers to points made by me, Caldazar and Tibber... especially Tibber...