The sky is falling!

[tygerwilde]

Umm, turkenlukz, sorry to tell you this man, but your arguement defies algebraic formula.

I learned last year that an objects speed when falling is determined by multiplying it\'s density by it\'s height then dividing by friction. if dropped on it\'s side from a high enough height a penny could indeed cut through someone\'s head. I\'ve never done the math, so I don\'t know if it could do it from the empire state building or not...

Also, since force =mass multiplied by speed squared, a penny traveling at thirty miles an hour is like being hit by a single penny with the mass of 900 pennies.

that\'s a lot of weight for such a small surface area.

[SaintNuclear]

I doubt a penny can cut through someone\'s head, it\'s side isn\'t sharp enough.

[sashok]

you all seem to missed his good point.  This would be a GM event, meaning it would happen rarely.

I like this idea and propose another idea to aid this idea.  I think during this event, the entry to the cave for example is closed up with rocks(so this is kind of like rp)..  It\'s closed up with rocks, and only people who are inside get to participate in the event .  This gives tremendous opportunity, but at the same time you have to get lucky to stay alive.  

I think death would not do anything to you other than teleport you back from the cave, and obviously you cannot enter again.  But, as Saphire proposed, during the falling of the ceiling, lot of rocks would contain gold, dimonds, etc.. (hence why do you think everything fell apart), those heavy metals could not hold on anymore )

The event should last about 30minutes to 1 hour with contstant pounding of the rocks inside the cave.. let\'s just say, if you stand in one place, and you are lucky person in general , you would last 2-5 minutes.
But the secret is to run around looking at fallen rocks.

So I expanded your idea a bit

[tygerwilde]

hey saint, you ever heard of a claymore, the sword not the mine? it\'s cutting edge was as wide as my pinky, it cut through the human body merely by sheer momentum

the blade on a claymore was custom made to the weilder, but on average it was 5 and a half feet of steel and usually upwards of 150 pounds.
it was only wielded by the strongest of warriors

[Icefalcon]

Hmm ya, I can think of a bunch of accident stories where construction workers had their legs cut off by meter thick steel beams...My friend\'s uncle had a really bad construction accident and lost both his legs...

[Oru]

The terminal velocity of a penny is about 60.3 miles per hour (I think it was).  It does not have the force to break bone or usually even break the skin.  On Mythbusters (on the Discovery channel) they rigged up a staple gun to shoot pennies at terminal velocity.  They also shot eachother with it and only came out with a few bruises.
They also rigged a rifle or shotgun or some other form of firearm to shoot a penny at about the same speed as a bullet.  When shot at the same speed as a bullet, it had the same effect as a bullet and shattered the dummy head they were using to prove that a penny *cannot* fall off the Empire State Building and kill people at the bottom or wedge itself in the concrete unless somehow someone shot from the top with a gun.

Ok, now that I\'m done being a geek, I think it would be cool to have random little cave-ins or such.  After all, the game *does* take place in a cave, and anything with a roof could send debris down in some way.
As for what is falling, maybe some things of value such as gems and ores, but a greater number of just random bits of rock than stuff worth anything.  Also, though, the falling rocks would probably be concentrated mainly in one place, which would be the weakest part of the roof/cieling/whatever, and so most of the people would probably just get hit on the head with chunks somewhere between the size of a baseball and random pebbles (hopefully your char would be on the side away from all the huge rocks, that is).  Even then, stone forms in layers, so it\'d be likely that the parts falling would be long, flat, and rather skinny unless they were a stalagmite/stalagtite (I dunno which is which any more), making them probably just a few feet long and wide, and maybe up to one foot in height...  Or maybe I\'m just overthinking things, so I\'m just gonna shut up now.

[Icefalcon]

Yeah, Im all for random events like that...cave-ins, rock slides...thunderstorms with lightning... maybe some magical random events as well... just some more ideas

[Turkenlukz]

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Umm, turkenlukz, sorry to tell you this man, but your arguement defies algebraic formula.

I learned last year that an objects speed when falling is determined by multiplying it\'s density by it\'s height then dividing by friction. if dropped on it\'s side from a high enough height a penny could indeed cut through someone\'s head. I\'ve never done the math, so I don\'t know if it could do it from the empire state building or not...

Also, since force =mass multiplied by speed squared, a penny traveling at thirty miles an hour is like being hit by a single penny with the mass of 900 pennies.

that\'s a lot of weight for such a small surface area.
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This is the exact reason I said, please feal free to flame now, I knew someone who did not have the whole facts would dispute me, I do however aknowledge the fact that I was wrong, I thought the speed was 30.2 mph err whatever, and only typed 30, and it is 60.2. I just did not feel like typing all that in about mythbusters, which is where I learned the same thing.

THANKS alot, I really appreciate that Oru
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\"The terminal velocity of a penny is about 60.3 miles per hour (I think it was). It does not have the force to break bone or usually even break the skin. On Mythbusters (on the Discovery channel) they rigged up a staple gun to shoot pennies at terminal velocity. They also shot eachother with it and only came out with a few bruises.
They also rigged a rifle or shotgun or some other form of firearm to shoot a penny at about the same speed as a bullet. When shot at the same speed as a bullet, it had the same effect as a bullet and shattered the dummy head they were using to prove that a penny *cannot* fall off the Empire State Building and kill people at the bottom or wedge itself in the concrete unless somehow someone shot from the top with a gun.\"
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[SaintNuclear]

OT:
Turkenlukz, I think you kinda mix the term \'diffrence of opinions\' and \'flaming\'.
Flaming involves cussing etc, that are toward the person that said something.
Diffrence of opinions is when someone disagree with what you said.

Flaming - bad.
Disagreeing - builds a healthy conversation (or flaming, if the sides are n00bs).

You weren\'t flamed.

[tygerwilde]

lol

-agrees with saint

I try not to flame people, it\'s a little ignorant. at least when you debate you learn things. I imparted knowledge of algebra, and they imparted knowledge that they have learned through the process of educational television. either knowledge holds it\'s merits.

I\'ll have to see if I can\'t watch some of that show.

[sashok]

gee guys way to stay on the topic.

To solve all your problem and the lag haha, there will be no small pieces falling.  Just nice big chunks of rocks filled with various expensive metal.