The sky is falling!

[Saphire]

It would be interesting, from time to time, that a event would occur where the ceiling of the giant cave would shift, and send small stones falling to the ground. This could be a substitute for rain.

However, the other purpose of this is for random things like utility-ores(iron, coal, copper...), precious ores (silver, gold, platinum...), jems (diamonds, rubies, emeralds...), and possibly small and VERY small items (rings, amulets, peircings...) could all drop durring this \"rain of stone.\"

It would obviously damage players, perhaps severely damage them, if any object hit them including the small stones. But for the most part these stones remain very small pebbles and dirt chunks with no more impact then a rain drop or a small hail stone. However, when a large portion of the ceiling collapses and lands on the ground, it could have any proportion of items and ores within it: so it could be mined and have a claim staked to it by a (possible group of) player(s).

These big ones would obviously kill you instantly, but a large shadow and a distinct \"big-a** stone falling\" sound would warn of any impending danger LONG before it crushed your body. As well, it\'s very hard to miss a large object hurtling directly down upon you. As well, if castle-like seiges are ever implemented it could give another possiblility of breaking down a wall... just wait until a large stone falls on it; or make one fall on it.

[Kiva]

I\'m just curious... If we are supposed to mine rings and stuff out of the dirt above us, who put it there for us to mine? Gotta think backwards some times...

[Xanaroth]

hmm.... the rain-thingy sounds great. nice idea:D

altough that part about sieging... never heard of a siege that was ended by a giant stone falling down on it.

[Wormtail_]

I\'ve never heard of a siege that took place inside a cave, though.   Wow, every post here has had a smilie...

Anyhow, perhaps there could only be raw materials inside the big rock. No amulets, rings, etc., as Gronomist said, because they just don\'t pop up out of nowhere.

Is it possible for a complete cave-in to occur? Also, perhaps players could be trapped by falling stones, such as rocks crushing limbs or just being surrounded by stones.

[ShadowFish]

what if you are in a hole when a huge rock is falling and it seals you in...youll be there a long while unless you can dig yourself out in the pitch dark...otherwise it is a good idea except for the items....id understand if player actually left it there and the rock it was on fell apart though

[Wormtail_]

Well, if a player was trapped, then I suppose the person calls for help or somehow commits seppeku. Monsters, on the other hand, will try to dig themselves out with the fierce determination of the computer AI. And woe to the poor trapped player that is dug out by a monster.

Perhaps yelling can cause the rocks to fall. Perhaps yelling in caves can kill you or enrich you.

[Fast_Bear]

YELLING AS IN USING 2 MANY CAPS?

[Saphire]

good point on the jewelery... but rare ores found in the rock would be a good idea.

As for getting trapped - it\'s unlikely. These stones would be near-round and probably have very large - and thus pointy - spikes on it\'s lower side, and would probably kill you before it trapped you.

Though in the unlikely event that you DO become trapped, the rocks dissapear in 5 to 30 minutes and can easilly be dug out. If you\'re trapped you can blast away with spells and slash away with weapons, and you\'ll eventually put the rock into smaller and smaller peices until you can move out of the rock normally.

[ShadowFish]

yeah but then oyu would be killing a rock and split it in half.....you die if it falls wrong...or you get crap in your eye and run your head into a wall....magic is probably the best way to get it off of you unles there is a way to pussh lighter rocks

[Fast_Bear]

what about using yr mining skill 2 get out?

[MajinBojin]

Originally posted by Wormtail_
Well, if a player was trapped, then I suppose the person calls for help or somehow commits seppeku. Monsters, on the other hand, will try to dig themselves out with the fierce determination of the computer AI. And woe to the poor trapped player that is dug out by a monster.

Perhaps yelling can cause the rocks to fall. Perhaps yelling in caves can kill you or enrich you.

cant u always use the /spawn command to get out?

Greetz Majin

[ShadowFish]

respawn command is only in the current version in case you get stuck somewhere....

mining skill would make the same thing happen unless you dig a tunnel to the side

[SaintNuclear]

I like the idea of dirt instead of rains, but the rest is kinda problematic...
I think that big rocks that could squash you \\ trap you in a cave would really suck. Hard things in games are challenging, but when you walk around and get squashed by a giant rock that fell from the cieling it\'s not challenging - it\'s aggrevating.
The small rocks might be ok, but think about it. The cave is huge, bigger than half of the PS planet (according to one of the maps in the PS world thread). Even a small pebble that will fall from the cieling to the bottom of the cave will create quite a nasty hole - atleast according to our laws of physics. Power = Mass times Velocity or something, and as the pebble will fall longer, it\'s velocity will increase... Ouch.

I don\'t think that ore should fall from the cieling either, it\'s too easy. Ore and other valuable things should be mined in specific places. You can\'t just dig wherever you want and expect to find iron, oil, or whatever, right? These things are located in certain places, and that\'s why they\'re valuable.
And since valuable means hard to get, having ore falling off of the roof will render it invaluable. Even if it\'ll be rare.
You should be able to get ore only by mining. Unless, of course, you\'re a thief, or a merchant, or your axe happened to fall on a merchant, chopped his head off, and your hand accidently took everything he had...

[Turkenlukz]

actually, things can only speed up to a certain degree based upon there shape and areodynamics. For instance, a penny can not exceed 30 miles an hour i beleave it is. If you were to drop a penny from the empire state building, assuming that the wind did not blow it into the the ledge that is 3 stories down, which is often the case, when it finaly hit the ground it would not have enough impact to even leave a mark, and would only leave a small bruise on someones head. Given the wind that blows constantly through caves, and the roundness (semi areodynamic, yet too bulky) of a pebble or rock, it would probaly bounce along so to speak, the wind channels, and by the time it hit the ground would make little more than a thud, and the crater would be little more than a cintemeter deep at most. Sorry physics go out the window when you stick things in a cave, and then consider the shape of the object. Well that is my two cents, feel free to flame.

[SaintNuclear]

Well, the point is, it would really suck if you walk around in the bottom of the cave, and then something falls on you (besides Megaras droppings). Whether it\'s gonna take only 5hp or 50hp it doesn\'t matter. It\'d suck.