Tauren's art

[Taurenthefirst]

no the hair on that one is what i drew for it. found out that my scanner was broken, probably be long time till more sketches.

[Taurenthefirst]

hey every1 im back if anyone remembers me... ?(
ive been busy alot lately but i have a few new pics... ill also try to repair some of the broken links...

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ok fixed as many links as i could, here is one of the things ive been working on while i was gone:

monsterthingy

see previous post for explanation and original sketch for this thing

and i got a new temporary sig up now too

and here\'s the colored version of that pic my freind drew me... i could use some suggestions or comments...
btw anyone have any ideas how i could make the fur/hair look better?




expect sketches soon

[Cha0s]

Cool. As for making the fur more realistic, add more lines and more colors (some shadowing, perhaps). Monochromatic bits look 2D.

A sort of cheap way to add \"fuzzy\" realism to things using Photoshop is to add noise. However, in the long run, things look a lot better when you do them out by hand (airbrushing, pencil, blur, and all the rest of those \"by hand\" tools ).

[Taurenthefirst]

thnx for actually commenting chaos!
ive been kinda stuck in progressing my art lately...
i dont have time to read any long guides or tutorials for photoshop or for art in general, so im trying to key in on the things i want to improve :]
my next couple of sketches are going to be some older pics that ive done, but after that hopefully you\'ll see my artwork shift away from the cartoonish style and anime towards more serious realistic pictures(thats what im shooting for)

Edit:
oh btw, i usually do shadows and stuff but i wasn\'t sure whether i should wait to do them till after i figured out how to make the hair look more \"hair-ish\" but now im so tired of looking at that pic that im just gonna let it be. :rolleyes:

[dragonfire999]

funny fact= check my thread, i used to draw more realistic. now im having fun learning cartoonish

me and you are opposites

[Taurenthefirst]

yeah well i got started off with cartoons, back when all the anime games and tv shows were popular in the u.s. (maybe they still are and i just grew out of that age group i dunno, my little cousin likes yu gi oh or whatever its called) and i got sick of it. so now im trying to do some more realish stuff, and im writing a story/book(maybe) and i want to be able to use some of my art for it, but the mood of the story/book(maybe :] ) is definitely not cartoonish... so whatever as soon as i can get to my scanner ill have a whole bunch of new sketches.  
btw, any1 know of any good photoshop pug-ins(free) that would be useful for the type of art im doing?
i searched on the internet and downloaded about (exactly) 40 but i havnt had time to look through or try them all out (actually none of them :rolleyes: )

p.s. dragon my favorite of yours is the blue klyros


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ok here\'s a sketch i did a while back, still cartoonish
the left arm looks pretty stupid but other than that i like this one pretty good
(edited and added some more)









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OT (please bare with me, im very happy right now   )
woo, i got the client, finally! wow, never thought that would happen...
so my character will be called Fell Westant, my usual rp name (yes that\'s me John Thazer if you\'re reading this, or other players of chaos wars)
so anyway, i was hoping that my forum name could be changed to that? (i made this one many years ago, and now i hate warcraft lol...)
read somewhere that this only happens for special cases
well i guess that\'s about as likely errr... something unlikely...
but you never know, i mean the client did finally successfully download, and THEN, what\'s more, is it successfully installed! truely amazing!
aww crap that means im a noob now... crud
whew... back on topic :
anyway the point of all this is to let my fans (wait, do i have those? ?( ) know that im gonna make some art of my char, but don\'t really know where to start so i could use some ideas... i don\'t really even now what i want my character to be other than i know i want him to be adept in some of the \"ways\"
ugh my brain still hurts from SAT... i guess ill draw a pic of a red way ylian doing something... fireish :]
any suggestions appreciated, im in a creative slump (that\'s what it is called right?) right now

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ok i guess i wont be fell westant, because first name is already taken... mumble mumble stupid grumble....


edit edit edit edit: (wouldn\'t have to edit so much if you people would comment on my pictures! )
anyway, the character above i named rone, and ive now added all the pictures ive ever drawn of him in chronological order (of when i drew them)
and the last one is after i decided to start trying to draw more realistically.

and as promised here is a picture of my character (now known as Felln Westant) doing some thing fire-ish



ill get some more sketches up soon.

[Taurenthefirst]

alright well that post was getting too long and complicated to edit, but here are some pics of firnal (the same charachter i colored in previous posts that has blonde hair)
they are posted in chronological order of when i drew them (don\'t forget the check out the linked one at the bottom   )

this is the very first picture i drew of this charachter. i know it sucks, i just posted it to show my progress

i drew this one after i drew the one that i colored in the earlier posts. i like this one pretty good, except for his face.

he is just riding on some horse-ish thing. i dont really know alot about how horses run, or how you sit on them    so this one kinda sucks too.

this is my latest one (after my realism movement )
did it just a couple days ago, i really like how this turned out, definitely one of my favorite sketches ive done. has a little violence in it, so ill just post a link.
firnal vs. monsters

[Taurenthefirst]

sorry for triple post but like a said before the first post was too complicated and long, and now for some reason it won\'t let me edit my second post... maybe because message length is too long?


ok well i don\'t really know why i\'m posting these here anyway since obviously no one looks at them...
i want to get better as an artist, but i guess since no one posts any suggestions here on how to make my pictures better they are already perfect.
i try to suggest things to myself but everyone knows that your perspective is skewed when you judge your own work... so that never really helps all that much (although it does help a little...)
i guess i could get my real life friends to help me, but they are all fan-art-retarded...
i guess im doomed to suck forever...
oh well... here are most of the monsters ive done relatively recently
this is your typical horse-cow mix, and firnal can be seen riding one in the posts above

this is sylvath... he killed firnal\'s (pictured above) father arad (to be posted soon)... so firnal got mad and killed him back and stole his sword.

this is a monster roughly based on my dog (a chinese pug named Woody!), after he has gone on a diet and taken steroids and grown some really big claws and teeth

this is... ok im not sure yet what it is... debating between reptilian bird and fish or maybe even amphibious bird... what do you think?

body sized and shaped like a frog, but is a mammal... runs like a great cat... maybe a cheetah...

definitely a bird

this was my interpretation of gollum before the movies came out, but i never finished it till after i saw the movies... and of course that changed how i saw him so i just changed this into a monster and went crazy on his right hand... i still like the way it turned out though...

a tree. not a monster, but oh well, it\'s not like anyone is gonna look at this anyway...

[dragonfire999]

your not doomed to suck forever.
Dont even make me get up my old stuff

Here is a few GREAT links to tutorials you should look at:

Drawing techniques
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/farp/theart/jesspencil/jesspencil.html
Human Face
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/farp/face_n_head_1/FandH.html
Differences between males and females:
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/farp/sexes/sexes.html


And check out the rest here:
http:// [URL]http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/farp/art.html?66707[/url]

Your art is not bad! you just need practice. dont worry about iit

[Crimsonsky]

You should crop your pictures to remove all that white as it takes up a lot of room and makes the pictures hard to see because of the size.

Keep up practicing, search around some places, I hope to see you get really good some day.  

[Taurenthefirst]

well atleast i\'m finally geting some feed back!
thx guys.  
it would be nice though for specific things in my drawings that you like or dislike. tutuorials are always too vague for me.
@crimsonsky-yeah i\'m practicing, but it seems like i make the same mistakes over and over, because i don\'t recognize them, and yeah i do try to crop my pics but towards the end i was getting tired so i just left them how they were.
i\'ll have some more sketches up soon... of some of the weapons ive done and of some other guys that are on firnal\'s side in my story.

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ok here\'s some weapons ive done: (btw there are two jokes (ok not jokes since they aren\'t really funny)hidden in two of these drawings... and if you find them... well you can be really proud of yourself)

sorry about the light lines... my scanner sucks and it\'s kinda hard to trace over the lines with a darker pencil for the fine lines in most of my weapons...

this was arad\'s sword (firnal\'s father). it was stolen by sylvath (see above) and then firnal killed sylvath and reclaimed it.

this is some evil guy\'s sword (don\'t know who yet)
it is two swords normally for combat, but they can be combined for ceremonial purposes

this is rone\'s huge battle axe thing (can be seen above)

this is a standard issue short sword for the army rone is a part of.

this is firnal\'s light sword he used before he killed sylvath


edit edit: come on people, please give me suggestions, or post specific things that you like or don\'t like in my drawings! also, don\'t be afraid to go back to my older drawings, since no one ever commented on those either... and i would really like to improve my style... anyway, here is another picture of Felln Westant doing something...magical...*sparks fly*
oooooo 8o
anyway, i like how this one turned out except for the shoes... they look stupid... so suggestions please?




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come on people will it make your lives so difficult to look at one of my pictures and think to yourself \"wow, that part there looks stupid.  maybe i\'ll spend 15 whole seconds and type up a suggestion to help him get better.\"
would that really be so difficult?
or is the reason no one is posting because they just see there are no new posts, so they assume there is nothing new, so they don\'t even look? maybe i should stop editing and just double post...
anyway, here are some pictures of the forces of good in firnal\'s universe:


firnal\'s father, arad.


firnal\'s friend and right hand man, edasan.


standard good guy foot soldier




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could someone post a link for some references for medieval/fantasy style shoes or boots?
all the shoes i draw look kinda like goofy socks...
anyway, i looked in all the current threads there are that have reference links, and i searched for about 15 minutes on google and yahoo, but no avail...
so anyway, this would be very helpful

[Zaxim]

Okay, my main beef I have is with your Final Fantasy bigass swords.

Bastardswords are fine.  It\'s just when they\'re almost as thick as they are long that it starts to annoy me.  I understand that doesn\'t help your with your drawing, but I\'m just bitter that way


For those shoes, I think your wizard guy would look good in boots.  I don\'t know if that\'s totally acurrate medival, but it would look cool.  Give him boots with a heel!

[Taurenthefirst]

there is really just one big sword but it keeps appearing in alot of my drawings (well, there is one other one too, forgot about it, but it only shows up once. the rest are normal, and one is a battle axe, not sure if you thought it was a sword.
but yeah i created the sword design like 4 years ago during my anime phase, and it became a part of that character.  but some of my other characters have changed completely over the years, and that sword is starting to look kinda cheesy, so i\'ll change it up.

shoes... well i still haven\'t found any references to help me with... but i\'ve been thinking and i think i might dig up neverwinter nights and look at some of the icons for shoes. from what i remember the icons were pretty detailed, and they may help me get down some of the basics. anyway, more sketches in about half an hour once i upload them.

[Gentar]

im going to be honest. you really need to think about the result you want before you just pump out a drawing. for example try to observe real things and get your ideas from those. look at your arms for instance, the muscles are ludacris: there are like 15 biceps and triceps. look at you mom or dads or anybodys arm and think of what ot looks like and draw it. another thing when you draw a pose, try to make that pose with your own body and see if its even possible. also think about proportions. your arms come about half way down your thigh and your legs are about half of the whole length of your body including the head.

im telling you this for your own benifit, im not trying to be mean. besides your work isnt horrible or anything. keep practing but with each picture you draw try to improve on something. dont just try to get it finished.

[Taurenthefirst]

yes the biceps/triceps thing is another horrible result of anime...
hard to break old habits as they say (they do say that, right?), but i\'m trying to move away from them. for example, did this a few days ago. only one bicep per arm

this is firnal training (yes without some dumb teacher. all by himself. without having to pay someone )
i don\'t really like the pose, and the face looks funny to me, can\'t quite place it though.  but like i said before, i think my anatomy is much better in this one.
oh, btw, yeah i started doing the thing you said gentar about looking at my own body for my drawings recently, especially for the hands. like the right hand on the guy above.
but anyway, thanks for the suggestions, i\'ll try to work on them.