Put the RPG in MMORPG?

[Monketh]

Originally posted by TheVictim
I understand what you\'re saying but I totally disagree.

I hate roleplaying. The reason i play any game is for the game itself, not for how people talk to me. In my opinion thats a very small part of how good a game is.

Uh, this game is being developed in the interest of not being a leveling treadmill, thank you.
I might also point out that rp\'ing doesn\'t necessarily mean using old english as many may think.

So if you aren\'t here for the people, why the hell do you play mmorpg\'s? ?(

[Draklar]

Originally posted by TheVictim
I hate roleplaying. The reason i play any game is for the game itself

ooook...
mmorpg itself is roleplaying, hence roleplaying game
poor situation here...

old english isn\'t a necessity, but it sure gives great atmosphere and encourages others to roleplay...

[AendarCallenlasse]

If you\'re here for a hack-and-slash game you are going to hate Planeshift.  So best you leave now.

uhuh... next thing you\'ll say is that /tell is for ooc as well  
from my experience, people that have one of coolest (well I like the way they roleplay most ) chars and are staying IC most of the time:

Monketh
Havena/Monk
Sangwa
Bobodar
Rumblebelly
Draklar  
and probably some more I forgot...

-=coughs?=-[/COLOR]

[Wedge]

I don\'t understand how you can expect people to role play in the game in the current state when there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO.  It\'s something you can occasionally have fun with right now, but for all intents and purposes, the current public release is really just a big graphical chat room.  So don\'t get all bent out of shape about it at this point.

[Draklar]

oh right, Aendar should be on the list too
Wedge: people do roleplay at this stage. :rolleyes:

[AendarCallenlasse]

I don\'t understand how you can expect people to role play in the game in the current state when there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO. It\'s something you can occasionally have fun with right now, but for all intents and purposes, the current public release is really just a big graphical chat room. So don\'t get all bent out of shape about it at this point.

I learnt everything I know about roleplay in chatrooms...
Just because you can\'t cast magic or physically damage someone doesn\'t mean you can\'t roleplay.[/COLOR]

[Wedge]

I\'m well aware they do, even I have.  I\'m just saying you shouldn\'t expect it as standard behaviour right now.

[Levski]

Once again, I seem to agree with Aendar   .  Roleplaying isn\'t, \"He stole my dia!  I\'m gonna hunt you down to the end of the earth _________!!!!!!!\"  And then proceed to duke it out.

No.

It\'s not like that.

Actually, in my opinion, this environment right now encourages RPing.  Since there isn\'t much else to do.  I mean, ALL guilds right now are a form of RPing. To petition for a guild, meet the guild\'s members, have them evaluate you...  That can all be seen as roleplay, since no one knows what you are truly like.  Personally, I roleplay from time to time, although I should do it more .  And no, I didn\'t learn it from a chatroom   .

Edit:  Do not, repeat, DO NOT underestimate Draklar\'s roleplaying ability.  The guy sends shivers up my spine, I swear it!

[Abemore]

I agree with John Conner... er Wedge.

Originally posted by Rothgar
A suggestion for the name tag bug could be what I\'ve seen in a few games, being told their name would unlock the tag. Until then don\'t show?

There has been a whole thread discussing this.  Vengeance doesn\'t like it... *grumble*  

[Vengeance]

For me personally, I don\'t consider speaking in old English or with a Scottish accent or whatever is \"roleplaying\".  I want to have immersive and consistent environments, where your characters act consistent with how they *should* act, and where little details make it seem \"real world\".

I believe that the team will encourage RP through rules and gameplay rather than banning anyone who doesn\'t chat right.  Examples:

- Healing up faster at a remote campfire in the forest than on your own with no fire.  This makes people seek the campfires and seek comfort and rest when hurt.

- Many MMORPGs have a \"looking for group\" feature to help people join up for adventure groups.  I\'d like to support that only when people are in taverns.  In everything from LOTR (the Prancing Pony) to Star Wars (the bar in Mos Eisley), rogues and heroes have met up in taverns to go adventuring.

- Venge

[rumblebelly]

ahhh me good ladd draklar tis good ta see ye mention this old dwarf in yer ramblin\'s ...give\'s this old dog a warm fuzzy feelin inside

i think by the response to the original thread prove\'s this game is full of people who roleplay...but i don\'t think i really have to say that.
all the good people i have met in the hydlaa plaza are great roleplayer\'s and there are too many to mention here but they know who they are  

[Rothgar]

Originally posted by TheVictim
I understand what you\'re saying but I totally disagree.

I hate roleplaying. The reason i play any game is for the game itself, not for how people talk to me. In my opinion thats a very small part of how good a game is.

Perhaps you should play Diablo? Ultima Online? One of the already corrupted systems out there which have drifted into the half-half region. This is titled a \"Role Playing Game\" or they could have called it \"Massive Multiplayer Online Power Level Game\". This game was by the look and sound of it developed as I envisioned. A Role Playing game, not a game where you hack and slash 24/7 to be the top level character in the game... Where is the fun in that? It happens in games like Diablo. Perhaps thats where you should be IMO if you have that type of attitude of not wanting to RP in a RPG.

I find it quite entertaining that people come to these type of games and hate role playing. With an attitude like this it will end up:
A) Lame with the RP\'ers on one side of the board and Non RP\'ers on the other.
B) You and others will be singled out and there will be no fun in the game...
C) As you can see there is not much point coming into a RPG with this mind-set.

I hope that since this game is being developed by RP\'ers they will uphold it and quickly smite or give a good talking to those who are just out for Power Leveling and PvP... Please don\'t get me wrong PvP is great fun for storylines :)

Sorry for lack of posts, er I was a little busy yesterday ;)

[Rothgar]

Originally posted by Vengeance
For me personally, I don\'t consider speaking in old English or with a Scottish accent or whatever is \"roleplaying\".  I want to have immersive and consistent environments, where your characters act consistent with how they *should* act, and where little details make it seem \"real world\".

I believe that the team will encourage RP through rules and gameplay rather than banning anyone who doesn\'t chat right.  Examples:

- Healing up faster at a remote campfire in the forest than on your own with no fire.  This makes people seek the campfires and seek comfort and rest when hurt.

- Many MMORPGs have a \"looking for group\" feature to help people join up for adventure groups.  I\'d like to support that only when people are in taverns.  In everything from LOTR (the Prancing Pony) to Star Wars (the bar in Mos Eisley), rogues and heroes have met up in taverns to go adventuring.

- Venge

I agree Vengeance, I don\'t consider the whole old english accent (That my friend can do all too well) \"role playing\" either. I have never got the hang of old english, it\'s just an added trait to your character. I just want to see people trying to role play rather than not. People won\'t be perfect starting off, I understand some of the people may never have RP\'d before. However I am upset to see people who are straight \"No I will not RP\", and continue to talk about modern life IC. As long as they stay IC, while using OOC for OOC, I will be happy, regardless of grammar, spelling, lack of accents etc. I\'m sure it would make PS a better place.

[snow_RAveN]

putting back rp back in to Rpg is like lifting 3 times your own body weight

ok so your thinking \"its not that impossiable\" well good luck the only place you will be able to do so is in space and trying geting on to a shuttle or any space bound object is also near imposiable unless your an astronaut or you signed up to be the lab rat on one of thoese X-prize teams ....

lets tackle the 1st problem
getting the world to role-play ... ho great you have just fallen flat on your face ....

due to lack of budget , talent , time , and the ever so huge population of power gamers (esp korean gamers but their gonna change they have got a table top board game craze just starting to bloom wont last long but by at least 2 years time it will be some what main stream )

[Rothgar]

I think your wrong, as long as the development continues on the RP path, I hope that it will be upheld. Therefore if people come and refuse to RP, they should be banished to an Abyss far far away :)

Pushing 3 times my own body weight... I don\'t see what this has to do about RP\'ing, but I guess if you want me to play Mr. Universe... Does this not come down to gravity? Who says that this is the exact earths gravity? Even in modern life perhaps I could bench 3 times my wait if I were muscular enough. It\'s probably possible... Expecially during an adrenaline rush.

Getting the whole world to role play... In a sense aren\'t we all playing our own unique role? As for RP\'ing well in a game such as PlaneShift, it\'s all on experience, you get better in time, you need a willingness to learn? To improve?

Yes it will be hard to uphold, but I believe thats why games have GM\'s (Game Masters) A.K.A. Administrators for the role of upholding the rules and making it an enjoyable experience.

I don\'t think narrowing down Korean\'s is helping anything here. It\'s the community the people are in, they have to change their mind-set. This game will hopefully not be a Diablo or Ultima Online. PS should be unique and hopefully uphold RP\'ing which would make this RPG exceed the existing ones. Main stream or not, it\'s all on the staff\'s expectations in the end, from what they\'ve posted, it will hopefully uphold their RP\'ing aspect. If they filter people upon arrival instead of allowing hundreds or thousands of people to start playing and then realize there are over 50% non RP\'ers it will make things easier in the long run.