Put the RPG in MMORPG?

[Rothgar]

I have just started playing PS. As far as gameplay, the graphics are fine but could be better, I\'m sure in Pre-Alpha they are expected to need improvement/more animation. Memory usage I hope will be addressed, as well at cpu consumption. I guess it just needs optimizing but most, if not everyone already knows this.

On to my topic!

I was interested in this game for the Role playing aspect. If some of you newbie\'s don\'t know what MMORPG stands for it\'s \"Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game\".

Role playing simply put is playing the roll of your character... Not talking about how good/bad your real life is or how you just came from playing counter-strike... That can be taken to PM or if put in later releases, which I would hope to see an OOC (Out of character) alias. Another alternative of \"out of character\" text is surrounding it with []\'s *\'s whatever, something to distinguish it from IC (In character). *\'s could be classed as an action/emote but I use *\'s simply because there is the lovely /me action alias.

My experience in PS so far consisted of people \"Magically\" knowing my characters name. Along with Statements like \"Oh well I can see your name on the mouseover.\" Wrong! I believe the text on mouseover is so you can target people and distinguish friends in a crowd... Not so you can magically know peoples names.

Don\'t get me wrong here, I could have a totally wrong vision from what PS stands for. But all of my above defines \"Role Playing\". This is a \"Role Playing Game\" I just hope people will improve seeing my post here. I would like to see an improvement on this as it would make the game a lot more enjoyable.

[Oru]

Yeah.. I\'ve sort of half given up trying to RP, at least until my RP-goon friends get PS working on their computers.

Coming from the wide world of forum RPing, I\'d find it nice if I could find someone who was actually IC.  I generally try to stay IC until I figure out if the other person is RPing or not, and act accordingly.  So far, I think the only person I\'ve come across that was IC was Monketh.

But yes, hopefully that\'ll change someday.  (Hm, maybe having something that you can toggle that tells people if you\'re IC or OOC at the moment would help with that?)

[Vengeance]

The focus now is to get the basic game playable and usable.  Then support for various RP features will be added as we go.  The team is strongly in favor of true RP support and wants to attract tabletop RPers who find previous MMORPGs lame because of all kinds of things, including some of those you mention.

- Vengeance

[AendarCallenlasse]

You are very wrong.  Or you have simply met other newcomers to the game.  The Planeshift community supports roleplying all-out.  That is one of PS\'s main goals...to have a game that will not require you to hack through endless swarms of monsters all day to get that 1337 piece of armor you\'ve had you\'re eye on.

Here are some of things planned for PS:
-Interactive government - The government will be player/GM/Dev run.
-Levelless/Classless system - People won\'t be able to define themselves as a lvl 30 Wizard, etc.
-Players will be able to create homes, shops, etc.

Trust me if you think people here are ignorant of roleplaying will soon find out you are very, very wrong.

Expect some flaming.

[Rothgar]

AendarCallenlasse, I never say they as a whole are ignorant of Role Playing, I said the majority of people I have come across...

When I see ignorant people, I usually remark out of character somewhere along the lines of *Ha, I didn\'t know you knew my name* Or *Hmm... I never told you my name.* to point it out.

If all the RP\'ers however refused to sink the \"match the OOC\'s text\" and continued to use IC, it would be a better place. Right now the shout feature, I\'m sure a dev feature more than anything is OOC. I have no problem with that, It\'s the regular messages. There\'s no need for a full toggle to OOC mode (IMO)... You shouldn\'t need to OOC that much. Thats why they invented IM programs :| A simple alias like \"/ooc message\" that displays in a different color would be suffucient. Also a nice feature would be /afk for when you have to step away.

I am all for the planned features you mentioned AendarCallenlasse.

I am glad to hear that Vengeance and I understand what your saying, I however feel people should be building a good IC profile before the CB launch.

Oru, Never give up, continue to use IC, If people use OOC when IC explain to the unknowing in OOC. Thats what I try to do... I guess you could also act surprised (You would have no idea how they know you, perhaps word of mouth. Don\'t use this as an excuse for blaintant over usage newbie\'s -_-)

Aendar I don\'t see what there is to flame.

A suggestion for the name tag bug could be what I\'ve seen in a few games, being told their name would unlock the tag. Until then don\'t show?

Always open to hearing what the community I will be RP\'ing in has to say. If you have a need to flame do so. This is my opinion and also the very definition of \"Role Playing\".

[AendarCallenlasse]

I pointed out that you may be flamed because in your posts you make it out as if no one here knows what RPing is.  When in reality the people here know just as much if not more.  As I said most of the people in-game, excluding the regulars, are ignorant of rping.  Which is one of reasons I don\'t play as often as I did.

Trust me when CB comes out and many of the PS forum regulars are able to get in-game you will see a game rich with RP.

You should really take a look around the forums as well, topics on Roleplaying have been brought up before and they\'re worth a read.

[Rothgar]

\"My experience in PS so far\" consisted of people \"Magically\" knowing my characters name. Along with Statements like \"Oh well I can see your name on the mouseover.\" Wrong! I believe the text on mouseover is so you can target people and distinguish friends in a crowd... Not so you can magically know peoples names.

Heh, I didn\'t mean for it to be taken as \"Everyone\" as I stated, it\'s been my experience so far. I have seen a few shouts that looked promising, however haven\'t met them yet. I myself am still debating on how to play my character in the long run, pondering what kind of personality I\'ll have. I haven\'t RP\'d in a while but I used to and it was great fun. I have trouble concentrating with just text however and so graphics will help me immensly as far as keeping me on track :) I have no doubt that some people here may and probably do role play better than myself. It\'s all in good fun though. You also get better with practise.

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Oru
So far, I think the only person I\'ve come across that was IC was Monketh.

I\'d say yer not ingame much or you don\'t know people there enough yet

[DepthBlade]

Originally posted by Vengeance
The focus now is to get the basic game playable and usable.  Then support for various RP features will be added as we go.  The team is strongly in favor of true RP support and wants to attract tabletop RPers who find previous MMORPGs lame because of all kinds of things, including some of those you mention.

- Vengeance

DnDers? Is that what you mean by table top RPers or just birdeye view rpgs?

[Kiva]

D&D isn\'t the only tabletop RPG that exists. There are many upon many diffrent tabletop RGPs out there like Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, Gurbs (or Gerbs, can\'t remember how to spell it), Vampire etc. and all of these are completely diffrent, with rules and everything. However, what we need is not some powerplayer who likes tabletops, we need people who are willing to roleplay, and who do roleplay... Which is mainly people who play tabletops...

[Altharion]

i do some old school RP, but what i have seen is people are willing too roleplay but they really dont have a \"start\"

[Monketh]

Originally posted by Draklar

Originally posted by Oru
So far, I think the only person I\'ve come across that was IC was Monketh.

I\'d say yer not ingame much or you don\'t know people there enough yet

Watch out for this guy, he\'s crazy.

j/k

There are plenty of other regulars who rp, but they frequently end up ooc because of newbie questions.  I myself usually greet and talk to an inexperienced player in-char before the conversation drifts ooc because of questions about the engine, lag, controls, money....

It is entirely true that most people in-game are not in-char.  It is also true that most regulars are willing to go in-char.  Obviously, /shout and the forums are out-of-character.  (But don\'t tell Drak, he hasn\'t figured that out yet.  :rolleyes: )

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Monketh
Obviously, /shout and the forums are out-of-character.  (But don\'t tell Drak, he hasn\'t figured that out yet.  :rolleyes: )

uhuh... next thing you\'ll say is that /tell is for ooc as well :rolleyes:
from my experience, people that have one of coolest (well I like the way they roleplay most ) chars and are staying IC most of the time:

• Monketh
• Havena/Monk
• Sangwa
• Bobodar
• Rumblebelly
• Draklar 8) :P ;)

and probably some more I forgot...[/color]

[DepthBlade]

Originally posted by Gronomist
D&D isn\'t the only tabletop RPG that exists. There are many upon many diffrent tabletop RGPs out there like Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, Gurbs (or Gerbs, can\'t remember how to spell it), Vampire etc. and all of these are completely diffrent, with rules and everything. However, what we need is not some powerplayer who likes tabletops, we need people who are willing to roleplay, and who do roleplay... Which is mainly people who play tabletops...

I played D&D for awhile with some of my friends back when i was 14-15 then it sort of just stopped happening, got jobs no time to play inbetween that and parties/school...oh well! My friend kelly who was kind of the genius when it came to upholding the rules and such in the game made up his own called viking something or other, it was alright!

[TheVictim]

I understand what you\'re saying but I totally disagree.

I hate roleplaying. The reason i play any game is for the game itself, not for how people talk to me. In my opinion thats a very small part of how good a game is.