Can Krans bleed?

[dragonfire999]

you guys think too much about this...

lol

[Isolis]

well the skill empathy says u need to use blood, if krans dont bleed then.... krans really cant use that skill

[Crong]

A Kran is a some type of Golem If a golem can bleed a kran can bleed. plus they both is made out of rocks, and I think a kran can\'t bleed and krans don\'t need muscles to move. a golem don\'t need muscles to move ether(not all the time). it is animated by magic. do you see skeletons with muscles no because they is animated by magic too. I think the wizard form Krans to look like that,
Have you heard of rock craving, rocks is cutable too. If they do bleed then it should be golden sand:). Or just a dent. I like Krans Its the first game I play that let you be a rock golem. And Krans is part of earth. so they might bleed mud or oil. And How can a Kran die when its like a rock? magic is crazy.

you Don\'t have to agree with me if you don\'t want to.

[Crong]

this not about krans. Humaniods Can walk on two legs and do everything a human can do. But how they came to exist. did humans fall in love with a animals and have a humaniod baby? I know humans can\'t have babys with animals but its wierd.

[Zan]

Well to add in my two cents ...

Krans are silicone based lifeforms and where Seytra explained the physics side of their functioning pretty well I \'ll try to elaborate on my view of their metabolism and biological side.

As for the biological side .. that \'s quite simple, there isn\'t any. Since they are not a carbon based lifeform they have no need for food. (Thus to make the game more realistic food shouldn\'t be edible by them) Since they have no need for food they have no need for an internal transportation system to supply their body with nutritients. So they would not have blood of any kind. They wouldn\'t have much of a metabolism either.

Just like solar panels Kran can absorb heat which they then could transform into electrical energy to become mobile. And if they are semi porous they have no need of a respirational system because the oxygen can just flow through them and get everywhere. Of course submerging a Kran for a while is still not very advisable since they \'ll lose their energy there and become a solid rock. Sinking to the bottom to remain there for all eternity.

One problem is how a Kran can regenerate though .. well they won\'t age as fast as us carbonbased lifeforms, they don\'t have to constantly renew their bodies and have a constant supply of resources either. But Yliakum isn\'t exactly peaceful so there will be fighthing and Kran can be cracked or chipped just like we can be hurt. So they will need ways to heal. Now since there are rocks all around they would probably be able to absorb the resources they need to repair just out of the soil they \'re standing on.

Aside from that perhaps there could be special potions for Kran, a solution of minerals and tiny grains of silicone which can be poured over the wound to heal it instead of ingested.

[derwoodly]

From the manual...
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Because their skin is made of silicon, the Kran are very resistant to laceration but, lacking flexibility, is more easily damaged by bludgeoning weapons. Silicon still supports oxygen linkages, so Kran breathe much more slowly than other races, enabling them to happily breathe underwater. Without ears, they perceive sounds thanks to vibrations on their bodies. Strong and tireless, Kran are as resistant as the rock that they were born from. Since magic was created to act on different principles, it seems to have little effect on them

Kran metabolism is very complex, they are used to eat sand of various and precious minerals that are digested in their stomach thanks to strong acids. They can also eat food full of mineral salts like seaweed and some crystals created in their kitchen, similar to chemical laboratories.
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They Eat, they breath, and get damaged.

Rats can attack them so they are not that tough and they heal just as fast as everyone else.

The question was do they bleed.  and the consensus so far is that they don\'t.  Actually I don\'t think any of PS inhabitants bleed.

[Kunisch]

This is interesting, because afaik the temperatur of lave depends on the type of lava, and some lava types has a temperatur arround 873,15 K, which menas that he Kran easely could walk ? on it ? or ? i don\'t know but an interesting thourght.

/Kunisch

[leuxast]

Might I say at the moment...... WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Karyuu]

The intellectuals and artists, maybe? :rolleyes:

[Zan]

Originally posted by derwoodly
From the manual...
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Because their skin is made of silicon, the Kran are very resistant to laceration but, lacking flexibility, is more easily damaged by bludgeoning weapons. Silicon still supports oxygen linkages, so Kran breathe much more slowly than other races, enabling them to happily breathe underwater. Without ears, they perceive sounds thanks to vibrations on their bodies. Strong and tireless, Kran are as resistant as the rock that they were born from. Since magic was created to act on different principles, it seems to have little effect on them

Kran metabolism is very complex, they are used to eat sand of various and precious minerals that are digested in their stomach thanks to strong acids. They can also eat food full of mineral salts like seaweed and some crystals created in their kitchen, similar to chemical laboratories.
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They Eat, they breath, and get damaged.

Rats can attack them so they are not that tough and they heal just as fast as everyone else.

The question was do they bleed.  and the consensus so far is that they don\'t.  Actually I don\'t think any of PS inhabitants bleed.

Guess I should have read the manual better before starting to theorize. Ah well back to the drawing board

[derwoodly]

If you read the intire post, I believe the you will come away with two things, one, a headache, two a general feeling that Krans do not bleed.

However! In a short story by Under the Moon (UtM) a Kran is wounded in a shipwreck and does bleed.  Since he is quickly becoming a forum legend, It might be best just to ask him about such maters of lore

[Crathuk]

Allright i read 6 pages and decided to register to the site to give my reply.

Krans aren\'t Rocks
Krans aren\'t Trees
Krans aren\'t made of sand
Krans aren\'t Frankenstein monsters
Krans aren\'t made of lavalike blood
Krans did not come from Star Trek
Krans aren\'t Thick-skinned and Big-boned
Krans aren\'t in The Matrix
Krans aren\'t Rock Golems
Krans aren\'t Earth Elementals
Krans aren\'t Obsidian Gargoyles
Krans aren\'t Squids
Krans aren\'t a human creation

Krans are Krans
They are not like anything in real-life
So don\'t compare them with anything in Real-Life and don\'t use real-life science because it is not intellectual like some call themselves (by the gods), it\'s PLANESHIFT !

[Odeskugga]

Originally posted by derwoodly
From the manual...
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Kran metabolism is very complex, they are used to eat sand of various and precious minerals that are digested in their stomach thanks to strong acids. They can also eat food full of mineral salts like seaweed and some crystals created in their kitchen, similar to chemical laboratories.
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Well, logically if that was the case they\'d have some kind of blood.

Although they would only need it deep inside as their exterior  is solid.

So, they don\'t bleed but they do have some kind of blood.

[Zan]

Originally posted by Crathuk
Krans are Krans
They are not like anything in real-life
So don\'t compare them with anything in Real-Life and don\'t use real-life science because it is not intellectual like some call themselves (by the gods), it\'s PLANESHIFT !

You do realize you \'re contradicting yourself, right?

You said it yourself it \'s planeshift, the game that is different from all the other mindless hack & slash leveling games. It is all about RPing in planeshift and for RPing you need one essential element .. what?

Yes exactly, background information. So why don\'t you let us discuss and theorize that background info instead of signing up for the sole purpose of telling people to be quiet.

Now, odeskugga you are right .. if they have a metabolism they need a transportation mechanism which would be similar to blood. However it also said their breathing is much slower than normal, allowing them to breathe underwater. Well then I think it could be that their body fluids would also move very slow. Not like with us where it is pumped around the body by a very powerful muscle. But I see a Kran\'s body being porous and filled with liquid that only moves because the Kran is moving. So their body would be completely filled with liquid in which the minerals and particles could dissolve and so move to where they are needed. Of course the external layer would be impenetrable and serve as a barrier.

As a result when a Kran \'bleeds\' it shouldn\'t be like when you hit a vein on another creature where it flows out but it should slowly ooze out as the outer barrier of its body is broken. Or maybe they don\'t bleed at all if the porous rock they are made out of has strong enough absorbing properties. Of course then it would be a very bad idea for a wounded Kran to go swimming in the winter. It \'d swell up completely like a sponge and then freeze outside .. water expands .. bam!

[Nikodemus]

Originally posted by Crathuk
Krans are Krans
They are not like anything in real-life
So don\'t compare them with anything in Real-Life and don\'t use real-life science because it is not intellectual like some call themselves (by the gods), it\'s PLANESHIFT !

How i love those people :s
How can they say somethink can\'t be compared to real life because it is fantasy game or whatever. In this case argument was PLANESHIFT.
There is huge amount of things which has been based on real world. One of these can be that Krans has shape of humanoids and all these things which you won\'t think about, because they are so common.

More or less, Krans will stay mysterious for a long time, if not eternity. The more we will know, the more questions will pup up.
And all those who tried to explain Kran secrets or scientists with sometimes very different theories, which will be always hardly accepted, by people who accept things as they are, not asking why.