toilets:The great equalizer

[Kintall]

I was playing Pristontale the other day and this level 70 something guy walks in like hes king of the game, and starts treating people  like scum because hes so much better than them and he has nothing in common with the \"n00bs\" and I though to myself, wouldnt it be great if he needed to go to the can just like everyone else..

yeah it sounds stupid, and well no  it really sounds dumb in fact it is

I just thought if the sims could do it, but yes I can see why it would be as poular as a Echidna at an orgy

still it could stop people getting to far up themselves for just having played longer

[SaintNuclear]

This... Err.... Could be interesting...

But you know, no one likes going to the toilet, why would they want to do in in PS?

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Kintall
I was playing Pristontale the other day and this level 70 something guy walks in like hes king of the game, and starts treating people  like scum because hes so much better than them and he has nothing in common with the \"n00bs\"

err... something\'s wrong with that? ?(

hmm... yea and you\'d have a new way to put out the fire

[SaintNuclear]

It\'s pretty obvious that a high-end player wouldn\'t treat newbies as he might have done back when he was in their level, but cockyness is annoying.

But let\'s look at it from another direction... If that level-70-guy would go to newbies and give them gold and items because he\'s nice, it\'s actually alot more cocky than going to them and saying \"I\'m better than you\". It\'s more than just saying you\'re better, it\'s showing it too.

Just like when IRL there are those people that say \"everyone are equal\" and go to Africa to give food to hungry kids. It shows that they\'re superior to those little kids, not that they\'re equal to them. Hypocrites.


Would you prefer hypocrites running around PS and giving newbies presents, or people going around and telling newbies \"Heh, you\'re only level 1, and I\'m level 80. I\'m better\"?

[Monketh]

This was already discussed.  I believe the answer was \"no.\"

Edit:

Originally posted by Karyuu
... It\'s arrogant to give presents?

Looks like Karyuu posted in the wrong thread.

[Kintall]

ahh well, I guess my toilet idea has been...



wait for it..



CANNED!!

[Karyuu]

... It\'s arrogant to give presents?

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Monketh

Originally posted by Karyuu
... It\'s arrogant to give presents?

Looks like Karyuu posted in the wrong thread.

reread the post above thine

anyway, I think very experienced characters terrorizing weak are just fine :]

[SaintNuclear]

It\'s not arrogant to give presents. If someone gives someone else a present because they\'re friends, or something, it\'s ok. But when you don\'t know someone, and you think \"oh, I got so many things, and he\'s a newbie, so I\'ll give him some things\" it\'s arrogant.

[tygerwilde]

charity doesn\'t mean you\'re arrogant.

if I have food and someone else doesn\'t, it does not mean that I\'m better than them. it\' means that I was born into a better situation than they were. when I give them food, I am attempting to help them into a better situation, also, it wouldn\'t make me \"bad\" to keep the food for myself, as I am simply taking care of myself and my own.

the problem is with people who have a bad attitude about it. the \"I\'m better than you and there\'s nothing you can do about it.\" attitude does not win you friends, and can often get you scrawed pretty badly.

[SaintNuclear]

Either way, newbies won\'t really gain anything if they recieve gifts from veterans. These veterans reached veterancy even though they didn\'t get any presents as newbies. The newbies don\'t need gifts to survive.

Also, I\'ve seen too many MMO types that had their community going really bad because veterans kept giving newbies gifts. A newbie that recieves a gift once, and twice, is very likely to become a beggar. They go around expecting people to give them stuff. When they don\'t get it, they start being annoying.
Then, when veterans see that other veterans give things so willingly, they make new characters, and beg. Then they give all the gifts to their main char...

Gifts should be between friends, and that\'s it.

[Monketh]

Originally posted by Draklar

Originally posted by Monketh

Originally posted by Karyuu
... It\'s arrogant to give presents?

Looks like Karyuu posted in the wrong thread.

reread the post above thine

anyway, I think very experienced characters terrorizing weak are just fine :]

Forgot this thread wasn\'t about toilets.

Also, I\'ve seen too many MMO types that had their community going really bad because veterans kept giving newbies gifts. A newbie that recieves a gift once, and twice, is very likely to become a beggar. They go around expecting people to give them stuff. When they don\'t get it, they start being annoying.

There we go.  That\'s a much more valid argument than \"Gift-giving is bragging\".
This happened and has been happening constantly in runescape.  (People there are all 10-12 year olds.  Bragging, rip offs, begging are all rampant.  I think we can trust a community like this to be more mature.  We also have /ignore.)

Thing is, you can\'t stop people from giving gifts...

[SaintNuclear]

Originally posted by Monketh
I think we can trust a community like this to be more mature.  We also have /ignore.)

1. Even if we can, the community won\'t always stay the way it is. People will come, people will go, there will be less and less people from the current community among the new ones. And we can\'t trust the new ones not to ruin everything.

2. Ignore is not a solution. Ignore can protect you from what the person says, not from what he do. Not only that, but it also helps you only against a single person. When there are hundreds of beggars, and most new players will probebly be beggars too, /ignore is useless.

[sashok]

well it would really suck if you realize your character didnt potty for a while, and you realize this during a fight


\"oh wait, mister monster, I need to pee really quick\"
\"Oh no problem +player_name+, use those bushes over there, take your time\"

[SaintNuclear]

It could be used to blind and confuse the foe