I'm leaving

[tygerwilde]

people really aught to think before they even offer to help...   I\'ve wanted to help with the project since I heard about it, but I don\'t have any tech skills whatsoever, I\'m an art student and a typist. If I knew code at all, I\'d make sure I knew something about Cspace before I even offered  my service. And even then I wouldn\'t retract my offer if I couldn\'t do it, I\'d ask for help and advice. otherwise I would have wasted the time of the devs and not contributed at all.

Please, don\'t waste the programmers time. everyone is eagerly awaiting the release of CB. Don\'t offer your services if you aren\'t willing to dedicate time and effort toward the project

[Vengeance]

A quick grep shows me in PS:

7378 comments starting with //
2145 comments starting with /*
------
9523 total comments in PS code

Crystal Space:

44768 comments starting with //
49447 comments starting with /*
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94225 total comments

If you think the code doesn\'t have enough comments, you could be right in certain areas, but in general the developers are not ignoring comments.  It is just a very complex system.  Guess what?  These games aren\'t easy to write.  :-)

- Venge

[RussianVodka]

Hey Venge... so far for my n00b programing, i only used \"//\" coments... what are \"/*\" coments suposed to do? Or are they  the same thing?

[Ionas]

Originally posted by Vengeance

-NO UML diagram at all

This part of the post made me laugh.  :-)  PS, CEL, CS, and Cal3D together must be over 5000 classes.  Creating a UML diagram of that would take an entire city block, and wouldn\'t help anyone, least of all Kronon.  

Venge, after reading this comment of you i couldnt help get worried about the way the program is created. If you think that UML or at least some design diagrams are unnesecary then i doubt very much about the quality of the code.
Your right that there should be no diagram for every minor detail but there should be designs to help new programmers understand the structure and to have the program be well developed as well. Parts of the program can be designed by the groups that are supposed to work on it anyway. When working on a part of the code someone only has to understand the global and specific designs for that part.

About telling the programmers that they shouldnt care about it, perhaps you should put more pressure on them else they might go too easy and slow development.

Not that i want to criticize your work (which i admire) but your comments make me worry somewhat and i hope im wrong or that you have a more critical view of the development than you appear to have to me.

BTW i would love to help program if i didnt know that im way too lazy to complete an assigment.

[tygerwilde]

now that I\'m thinking about it, this is an awfully convenient place for me to ask:

is there a website out there where I could learn some code? Particularly someplace where I could learn something that might let me help with the project?

[tangerine]

Originally posted by RussianVodka
Hey Venge... so far for my n00b programing, i only used \"//\" coments... what are \"/*\" coments suposed to do? Or are they  the same thing?

/* is comment of C language and can be used for multi-line comments

// is available in C++ only and can be used for single-line comments only

[Kiva]

Originally posted by tygerwilde
is there a website out there where I could learn some code? Particularly someplace where I could learn something that might let me help with the project?

Go to your local library and borrow a book about programming. Once you get the hang of that, learn from other programs and start writing your own, and maybe in a year or two you might be able to start contributing.

[Androgos]

Originally posted by tygerwilde
now that I\'m thinking about it, this is an awfully convenient place for me to ask:

is there a website out there where I could learn some code? Particularly someplace where I could learn something that might let me help with the project?

Personaly I started to program at the age of 9.
Visual Basic was the programming language then.

Overtime I began to write more advance programs and I told myself:
\"Learn C++ and let VB go! Never launch the editor for VB again!\"

Now (5 years later) I\'m very into C++ and like it very much, though I have still things to learn, but I\'m quite a fast learner.

Still, I have use for my old VB knowedges, VB is good at doing programs very fast, small stuff.

That\'s my history, follow it or go your own way.
Hope to see you in the future

[Icefalcon]

Hmm so your only 14 Androgos?

[Xordan]

Yes he is.

[tygerwilde]

*blushes*
well, I sorta have a history at the library
(damn Peirs Anthony books eight years overdue...)
and yes, they still have my records, last I heard I owed them $936 american.

what I\'m asking is if there\'s any good online resources. something that\'s as easy to understand as htmlmonkey is, but dealing with code. I\'ve been told C++ is the best place to start. But I really don\'t have any idea where to find online courses for it, or if they exist.

[Parts]

/me tries to cry; realises he has sewn his tear-ducts up and bloats his face instead.

Oh well..........

[Altharion]

www.codeproject.com

www.cprogramming.com

www.cplusplus.com

i tried to learn C++ and well i fell asleep  

but i enjoy modeling/mapping even more (i think it\'s more fun)

[karakth]

I personally learnt Pascal programming a couple of months ago for a school project (making a hangman game, I use ASCII for pictures 8o).

I started learning C++ and then had to stop for these exams. I still like the idea of object-orientated programming though, sounds handy.

I\'ll continue learning...later.

[tygerwilde]

thanx for those, I\'m gonna look at those for a while