Dangers of no 56k in Planeshift

[Xyl]

I noticed a few people were a little bit ignorant saying that people should upgrade to broadband and that it is not much dearer. Well where i live in Australia is classed as a rural area, we cannot get Broadband out here because the telephone lines are not capable of it. Broadband won\'t be to my area for another 4 years after a massive 20 Million Dollar phone line upgrade goes ahead.

Remember to be a bit kinda to those of us who are not so lucky and cannot do everything you want.

[Xordan]

Originally posted by elscouta
Bah huge transfer is only useful (apart from servers) for downloading illegal stuff X(

And uploading illegal stuff.
The stuff I could upload with a fast line... *drool*

[Kuiper7986]

I agree with you Xyl, that\'s why planeshift is going to be great because it also allows for people to play with Narrowband, of course I\'m getting broadband in a few weeks...

[Dalec]

Yeah it is really ignorant to say people should all have broadband. While your at it, I think everyone who wants to play games online should have at least $3000 computers too, and degrees in playing video games.

Anyway, I dont have to worry as our neighboors got fed up with not having broadband and installed a T1 line for our neighboorhood I get DL\'s around 200kb/s, up from 1.5.

[Parts]

Originally posted by Dalec
Yeah it is really ignorant to say people should all have broadband. While your at it, I think everyone who wants to play games online should have at least $3000 computers too, and degrees in playing video games.

Anyway, I dont have to worry as our neighboors got fed up with not having broadband and installed a T1 line for our neighboorhood I get DL\'s around 200kb/s, up from 1.5.

Community pipes are definitely the way ahead for rural areas (and some not so rural where the telcos dont go.)

[Adeli]

I am also from Australia and I know how terrible DSL lines are here. I\'m on 512 ADSL now, but until a few years ago, you couldn\'t even get broadband in my town, and I live ~40 minutes out of Melbourne. Cable, that\'s just a waste of effort. You have to be in VERY close proximity to have availability... and it\'s costs so much there\'s no point. We pay AUD$60 for 10GB a month 512... I know some companies that charge  AUD$50 for unlimited time/download 56k dial up.

EDIT: fixed some typos.. heh

[Xyl]

Wel currently I\'m running Iprimus Unlimited hrs & download 56k internet for $24 a month with 50 Free local calls. i usually download 1Gig a month with my slow system, but it\'s all i can get around my way, I\'m like 250km from Brisbane and the closest broadband service is at Gympie which is still 52Km away.

[Adeli]

Originally posted by Xyl
 service is at Gympie

I don\'t like Gympie, it\'s a drab place, last time I was in queensland there were extreme storms in Gympie, and roofs came off houses

[-Tsumeone-]

The 100mbps DSL thing made me laugh  Partly because I know that speed of DSL doesn\'t exist, and also partly because a 100mbps connection would be VERY expensive (24.95? nope.).

Where I live there are a lot of choices.

Netzero/Juno: 9.99/mo
AOL: 21.95/mo was it?  Probably more now.
COX Cable: 34.95/mo
PacBell (SBC) DSL: 49.95/mo

Those are just some of them.  As you can see, broadband is still at least 20$ more expensive than DSL/CABLE, which can make a large difference for some people.  Also, here the prices are relatively cheap to other areas or countries.  I have COX Cable, 3mbps.  It works, and it\'s fast, and the only reason we have it instead of dialup is because I begged my dad for it and because it makes our Cable/Digital Phone/Internet package be from the same company, which gets us a discount

[Vakir]

All I have to say is.... 56k blows.

I love my Cable Modem on my home network, it just beats the living **** out of 56k.

Thanks,
Vakir

[Seytra]

Seeing that broadband is far from being universally available, I have always been surprised to see how many broadband ppl. are out there actually. Still, If game quality doesn\'t seriously decrease, I\'d like to see support for 56k. Hell, just imagine you\'ve become addicted to PS and then have to move somewhere one can only have 56k!

[dfryer]

It\'s been said before, but bandwidth isn\'t the limiting factor in Planeshift (at least not yet).  56k should work fine currently, and should continue to work after CB (at least that\'s the impression that I get...)

[Kiva]

You people have seriously misunderstood something.

First off, broadband is NOT DSL. Broadband is fiber optic cables running 10 or 100 megabit per second (12.5MB/s on the 100-one).

DSL uses the copper wires in your phone plug and has a maximum speed of 4 megabit per second (4-5, depending on the amount of copper in your plug).

Broadband is available, and cheap, in major parts of Sweden and Denmark (and most likely other places as well, I just don\'t know where because I haven\'t done research on it), with a setup price of roughly $300 US, and a monthly fee of ~$30 US and that is for Internet, Cable TV and Phone. No, I\'m not lying. The 100mbps lines however are usually shared by 50-100 apartments in apartment complexes, and so on, which cuts the price by a bit, so the price may vary.

Just to make an example, I have the prices from jay.net, a danish high-speed company. You can get a 100 mbps with a creation cost of 10,000dkk (1,647USD), and with a monthly cost  of 15,000dkk (2,470USD) shared by... let\'s just say 100 apartments, giving 150dkk (24.70USD) per month, per apartment.

The 100mbps DSL thing made me laugh  Partly because I know that speed of DSL doesn\'t exist, and also partly because a 100mbps connection would be VERY expensive

I\'m sorry, but first of all, 100mbps DSL does not exist. What you are talking about is a 100mbps broadband line, using fiber optic cables and no company in the U.S. offers that to private customers, mainly because it is too expensive in the US as they would need to dig out new holes, whereas in Scandinavia, they have space for it in the underground cylinders holding power-cables. There, it\'s simply a matter of pulling the line. Very little digging has to be done. So yes, a 100mbps line is VERY expensive in the US, but not over here.

And now we\'re at it, I can just as well say that the fastest documented connection to the internet that you can get is a 1 tbps (Terabit per second - that\'s 1000 Gigabit, or 1,000,000 Megabit per second - that\'s 22,222 T3 lines), however no company has that at this time. However, there is a company in New Zealand (can\'t remember the name) that has a line that on about 1/3 of a 1 tbps. That\'s pretty fast, you know.


Anyway, to get back on topic. Don\'t worry. You\'ll be able to run PS on a 56k for a long time.

[Ghostslayer]

Originally posted by Gronomist
You people have seriously misunderstood something.

First off, broadband is NOT DSL. Broadband is fiber optic cables running 10 or 100 megabit per second (12.5MB/s on the 100-one).

Well I guess that all depends on the terminology.  Here anyway, a broadband connection basically refers to anything faster than a 56K modem; so ISDN, DSL, Cable, T1, T3, etc. would all be broadband connections.

Originally posted by Gronomist
And now we\'re at it, I can just as well say that the fastest documented connection to the internet that you can get is a 1 tbps (Terabit per second - that\'s 1000 Gigabit, or 1,000,000 Megabit per second - that\'s 22,222 T3 lines), however no company has that at this time. However, there is a company in New Zealand (can\'t remember the name) that has a line that on about 1/3 of a 1 tbps. That\'s pretty fast, you know.

Thats insane.... the fastest connction I\'ve ever heard of is an OC768 : 40 Gbps which I thought was unbelievably fast.

[rahziel]

Well, I live in Romania and the prices here go waaaaay high. 56k is exensive but cable goes sky-rocket unless you share your connection with somebody.
16kb/s is 40 Euros with limited download which is extremely expensive for us, the salaries being very low.
I have a cable connection but it\'s not very good because in order to pay less we got a good DSL for the server, and the brodband is shared among a LOT of people. My connection speed is 2-3 kb/s so that puts me in the 56k section.
The good part is that I have to pay less than iI normally would through a telephone line and there\'s a fixed price.