Dangers of no 56k in Planeshift

[Zorium]

And now we\'re at it, I can just as well say that the fastest documented connection to the internet that you can get is a 1 tbps (Terabit per second - that\'s 1000 Gigabit, or 1,000,000 Megabit per second - that\'s 22,222 T3 lines), however no company has that at this time. However, there is a company in New Zealand (can\'t remember the name) that has a line that on about 1/3 of a 1 tbps. That\'s pretty fast, you know.

8o Who?  Where? How much?

-Zorium

P.S. Look at location if your wondering

[Minouris]

Evenin\' all

Who? Where? How much?

I\'m pretty sure that none of the regular domestic providers (Telecom, Telstraclear / Paradise, etc) offer anything near that speed, at least to home users...

Citylink\'s another matter though- that\'ll get you access to the main trunk for the country, at some pretty obscenely high speeds. The problem is that it\'s also horribly expensive to install, so it sort of puts it out of the hands of home users.

I know a couple of guys who live next to one of the cybercafes in downtown Wellington, and are able to tap ito their connection (with permission, of course). As long as they stick to national traffic, they don\'t have to pay a thing. At last count, I think they were able to download a full DVD rip of a movie in about two minutes, on a good day.

Curse Telecom and their stranglehold on our communications... if not for that, a broadband connection- a proper broadband connection, mind, not just DSL or ADSL- would be slightly cheaper then what the average dialup companies charge :/

[Xordan]

Originally posted by Gronomist
You people have seriously misunderstood something.

First off, broadband is NOT DSL. Broadband is fiber optic cables running 10 or 100 megabit per second (12.5MB/s on the 100-one).

DSL uses the copper wires in your phone plug and has a maximum speed of 4 megabit per second (4-5, depending on the amount of copper in your plug).

You do talk alot of crap sometimes ADSL2+ is 24mbps, ADSL2 is 12mbps and normal ADSL is 8mbps. And don\'t say that ADSL and DSL arn\'t the same thing -_-.

DSL is broadband, if it wasn\'t then I could sue every internet company in the UK, who all say that broadband is xDSL etc.

And the fastest speed that exists is \"Internet2\" which broke the 100-petabit meter per second mark. And no, that\'s not publically availiable, although you can connect to the line if you\'re next to a big university, and have access to around 6.63 gigabits per second, which is a transoceanic line, there isn\'t another transoceanic that goes at this speed.....

Oh, and anybody in the Uk can now get 512kbps minimum Prices start from ?17.99 a month I think.

[Zorium]

Citylink\'s another matter though- that\'ll get you access to the main trunk for the country, at some pretty obscenely high speeds. The problem is that it\'s also horribly expensive to install, so it sort of puts it out of the hands of home users.

I know a couple of guys who live next to one of the cybercafes in downtown Wellington, and are able to tap ito their connection (with permission, of course). As long as they stick to national traffic, they don\'t have to pay a thing. At last count, I think they were able to download a full DVD rip of a movie in about two minutes, on a good day.

Yeah I\'ve seen Citylink\'s prices (albeit through IHUG) and a 1.7 grand setup fee is not what I would ever consider (though a mate of mine thought about one of the cheap monthly rate ones because it had unlimited national).

Lucky mates, gutted about no international traffic though because almost no local servers for anything X(

Curse Telecom and their stranglehold on our communications... if not for that, a broadband connection- a proper broadband connection, mind, not just DSL or ADSL- would be slightly cheaper then what the average dialup companies charge :/

Yeah Telecom are evil gits Wired Country have good deals (though there aren\'t any transmitters in Wellington though) and the new wholesale adsl should be nice

-Zorium

[Minouris]

Lucky mates, gutted about no international traffic though because almost no local servers for anything

I don\'t think it holds them back too much... what they usually do is proxy out through our office\'s connection, which has unlimited traffic, pretty much. As far as servers go, I think they just run their own servers for the things they want to play- I know they\'ve got a box running the \"America\'s Army\" game, as well as a couple of DC++ hubs for all their file sharing needs. They seem to do all right by it

[Typhorean]

Originally posted by karakth
Broadband is cheaper than 56k (for me anyway). It\'s also much more comfortable. 56k people should update to broadband. The only people who need 56k are those who use the internet for only menial tasks such as recieving/sending e-mail. Gamers should be on broadband.

If we took a poll here, would most people be 56k or broadband?

 I live in the USoA, but I can\'t get broadband.

I live in a town with a population of 314 people in central missouri, and the only internet connectivity you can get here is 28.8k dial up and sattelite.

BUT I can\'t get sattelite because I am surrounding on all sides by huge trees.  (I\'m talking big, from the top of our house which is 2 stories with an attic, a guy came and said he didn\'t think he\'d be able to make it work.)

The world is not a fair place.

And when you see the internet commercials that say \'available everywhere in the continental united states*\' pay close attention to the asterik at the end.  

Good news, though, I\'m moving! :O

[Noldor]

Cable access down here in San Diego, Calfornia, USA is rather expensive.  Most of the people I know who have the service either....have the income to justify the expense or they work for the cable company and get it at a very discounted rate.

If a person has cable access and is sharing the cable with someone else OR has a second computer networked in, then the Cable Company wants a seperate account for each user.  IF the company catches you sharing your cable with someone without paying extra, it is ILLEGAL and they will sue you.  Here is an article about it:

Here are the rates for my area:

Digital Cable Internet:
http://www.cox.com/sandiego/highspeedinternet/pricing.asp

Combo Packages:
http://www.cox.com/sandiego/Coxcombo.asp

DLS Access:
http://www.buytelco.net/buytelcodsl.asp?gtse=goog&kw=San%20Diego%20DSL

Dolnor

[Ltkboy]

OMG I cant believe that all of you even used 3 pages on this topic its simple to answer watch.



56k will work on ps and as long as it doesnt affect us people on any kind of faster then dial up connection dont worry about it.

there you all go the technical terms dont matter if you want to create a topic to discuss the spec. of broadband narrowband and 56k then do that. keep things organized.

[Xordan]

Yeah I know We turn the simplest question into a big debate. It just shows what fanatics we are

[SirTokesalot]

I can only get dail up where i live, and it workes ok for alot of online games (most of the time).
It would suck for alot of ppl if PS didnt support 56K .....
   Plz suport 56K in any updates.

[chrischoo]

Originally posted by Gronomist
You people have seriously misunderstood something.

You know, just to ruffle some features, I do vaguely recall this bandwidth discussion on IRC which Grono and myself were engaged in, but the only thing I can really agree with is the part of her statement which goes \"people have seriously misunderstood something\".

Broadband is about using multiple frequencies to send signals. A DSL line typically has a number of channels. One of them is assigned to voice (telephone), while the rest is divided among upstream and downstream so you get these multiple channels, hence the term \"broad\"+\"band\"...

But I think Wikipedia explains this better
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband
if we really want to be very nitpicky about this.

[Mezasa]

Actuakky, Verizon has a new Fiber-Optic DSL line they are testing in Texas and Florida right now. The $40 package I believ, is 15down/5up. Thats a DL speed of 1875! Since it uses Fiber-Optic lines, it doesn\'t cost them anymore, except to put in the FO lines! Sadly, I have Bellsouth, and Verizon will probably never get here. I get a 3down/384 up for about $90. I will try to find a link for the Verizon stuff...

[Mezasa]

SureWest
Offers a 10/10 connection, only in Sacramento Area thoguh. :/

Verion 15mbps down
5/2 is $40
15/2 is $50
30 has not been set with Up speed or price yet

[fldc]

Originally posted by -Tsumeone-
The 100mbps DSL thing made me laugh  Partly because I know that speed of DSL doesn\'t exist, and also partly because a 100mbps connection would be VERY expensive (24.95? nope.).

Where I live there are a lot of choices.

Netzero/Juno: 9.99/mo
AOL: 21.95/mo was it?  Probably more now.
COX Cable: 34.95/mo
PacBell (SBC) DSL: 49.95/mo

Those are just some of them.  As you can see, broadband is still at least 20$ more expensive than DSL/CABLE, which can make a large difference for some people.  Also, here the prices are relatively cheap to other areas or countries.  I have COX Cable, 3mbps.  It works, and it\'s fast, and the only reason we have it instead of dialup is because I begged my dad for it and because it makes our Cable/Digital Phone/Internet package be from the same company, which gets us a discount

Well, this is not true, VDSL can be run at speeds at 52/52Mbps or 100/1Mbps (if it\'s not more than 3-500m to your station), a connection like that costs about $60 were i live.

[Mezasa]

Um, I have a correction to my cost. It\'s $90 for our ebtire phone bill, $44.95 for the DSL.  I just realized I said $90 just  for DSL...