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tygerwilde

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« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2004, 05:23:46 am »
thanks for all the positive feedback, all of you.

Yes, I trust this community pretty well. I\'ve known most of you for quite a while now, and while often opinions are different on these boards, I can say that most of you are nice people on the inside and intelectually worth more in your weight in salt as the saying goes. moral values are strong on these boards.

I\'ve tried chemical means before, Trazodone gives me hallucinations, actually waking dreams, I would dream at night and wake up still dreaming. Zoloft makes me anxious and jittery, the medicine that they gave me for the anxiety weakened my immune system and gave me infections... most of the other things they\'ve tried do nothing at all or have had some kind of bad side effect...

The problem isn\'t that I havent told the councellors about my depression, I just haven\'t told them about suicidal thoughts. they\'ve tried probably a dozen different types of drugs.

Depth, I\'ve never actually tried to commit suicide, just had the urges. but I\'ve studied enough to know a few things about it.

the majority of people who make multiple attempts on their own lives are faking it. they don\'t actually want to kill themselves, but they lavish in the attentions they get from adults who know about the behavior. this doesn\'t make the actions any less destructive. When one makes a public attempt on one\'s own life, it affects everyone who knows them. people around them are torn with emotions. it also affects their future. no one can really trust someone who has tried to kill themselves, if a person doesn\'t feel their own life matters, they might decide to end someone elses as a means of making more of an impact on the world around them.
many people disclaim this saying that it\'s just speculation, yet, if everyone who attempted suicide really meant it, the population of the world would be MUCH lower than it is.


however, every now and then someone comes along who does want to end their lives, yet is either inept or is actually as afraid of death so much that their attempts to kill themselves fail.

either way, yes, your sister needs help. in the first case, she\'s traumatising the people who care about her. in the second, she has already proven that she\'ll make the attempt, and it\'s only a matter of time before she manages to kill herself.


as for myself
I feel that as long as I have family and friends I won\'t be in danger of commiting suicide, I care too much about those around me to make them hurt the way that they would if I were to die.
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« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2004, 06:02:58 pm »
Well if she is just trying for attention she doing a damn good job and soon it might actually turn into a suicide, when she cuts her wrists she cuts them :(

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« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2004, 12:20:03 am »
There may be underlying emotional issues of some sort as well.  Is there someone who tells her she\'s fat?  \'cuz 140 lbs. isn\'t fat.....
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« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2004, 01:29:54 am »
Mm there\'s a lot of pressure from the media and society which sometimes give girls a distortion of reality and making them think that they are physically imperfect. I do not think that I have to mention such things as magazines, brommstick-thick supermodels and celebrities, etc. Another factor is that people nowadays grow up quickly. Girls of twelve and thirteen are already going out, dating, and generally living the lives of adults without the wisdom of adults. The result is an unfortunate distortion of reality where girls start thinking that there must be something wrong with them if they cannot attract boys, etc.

Some girls develop annorexia because they want to \"punish\" their bodies for being too fat, for example. This might not necessarily mean that they are fat, they might just have a distortion of reality. Depth, prehaps your sister feels that if she cuts herself, she is punishing her body which she percieves to be imperfect. She has to break that distorted image of herself; Someone should tell her this. If not her mom (she might have a problem with authority), why don\'t you approach her as a friend and brother?

Tygerwilde: I do not think your councilors would lock you up if you explained to them why you haven\'t attempted suicide. I do not think you are in any danger of attempting suicide, because you are lucky enough to have a wife you love very much and who loves you back and friends. Do you have children? I believe you mentioned them in the other post. If so, they are another reason why you\'d never attempt suicide.
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« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2004, 01:32:36 am »
It\'s doesn\'t have to be because someone tells her she\'s fat, it could be just in her mind.
Or maybe it\'s because she looks at anorectic models too much...
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« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2004, 01:43:39 am »
No one tells her she is fat, no one tells me im fat and im bigger than her...She has always been like im fat there is a girl i work with the same way!

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« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2004, 03:28:39 am »
some people don\'t have to be told, they see the media\'s impossible standards of beauty and they believe that if they can\'t measure up to the women in their magazines or on their tv, then they are less of a person. not all anorexics are instigated into their behavior, it\'s another kind of mental imbalance.

as far as telling my doctors is concerned, once long ago, they were going to put me away simply for the level of depression I was going through and the fact that I was only sleeping about 40 hours a month. I\'m afraid of being put into a home or hospital, and with my history, I don\'t know how much it would take to find reason to put me in one.

so I avoid them when I can, and when the depression is really strong, I see them long enough to get an anti depressant, just for a short time fix and leave it at that. I don\'t feel the need to be fixed entirely, I just don\'t want to be so sad that I can\'t enjoy ANYTHING.

{did anyone say that depthblade\'s sister is an anorexic??? i must have missed somehting...
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« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2004, 11:15:31 am »
No I just took the example of anorexics who have the illness because they want to punish their bodies for being imperfect in their opinion.

Well the important thing Tyger is that you\'re not in danger, although  the imbalance is unfortunate.
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« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2004, 11:30:02 am »
I could be way off base, but I think T\'s wife needs his support and he should leave the PS2 at home.

Your mother-in-law and wife will be experencing some very strong emotions.  Now is the time to be 100% involved in thier life.  Sure the Oger is dead, but your trip is not about him. It is about your wife and mother patching up thier relationship and mending deep wounds.  

Think of it this way.  If your wife were still single and you were courting her,  this would be a great oppertunity to endear yourself to her.  If the relationship is a bit rocky this kind of thing can glue it back together.  If it is already strong, it will empower it.

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« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2004, 11:55:10 am »
No, he should take it. They won\'t \'patch up\' all the time, and even in some of the time they will, they might not want him right there with them.
They\'ll want some time for their own too, and there\'s absolutely no reason what-so-ever that in that time he\'ll have to sit on a chair and stare at the wall.
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« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2004, 07:58:36 pm »
hehe, actually, there won\'t be that much patching up to do. after he died, they picked up pretty much where they were before he came along. Now they talk pretty much every day. they\'ve gone back to being best friends....

the bad part is, it\'s costing a mint in calling cards.
we are the music-makers, we are the dreamers of dreams - Gene Wilder as willy wonka

Johnny Depp\'s a poser to the throne. No one will ever play the part as well as Gene Wilder