The meaning of this? ....

[SaintNuclear]

Talking about the setting... How\'s the world the stalactite is in is called?

[Taldor]

Originally posted by Gronomist

It was the conic block of rock that held Yliakum.

[SaintNuclear]

Taldor, if you meant that as an answer to my post, you might want to check this:

Yliakum is an underground city. The inhabitants, a mixture of different races, also call it the \"City of the Azure Sun\", referring to the huge crystal that gives the city its light and supplies the land with life-giving energy. Yliakum is located thousands of meters under the surface inside a huge excavated stalactite, hanging inside a cave so huge that it could contain any kingdom of the surface.

I was asking about the name of the world, not the name of the city.

[Levski]

The planet or the universe Saint?

[SaintNuclear]

Planet.

The universe name could be nice to know too, but I was asking about the planet.

[Seytra]

Originally posted by Gronomist

I would imagine that the legend of Pradesha really _is_ a legend that the Lemurs made up for not knowing better?

I think you should consider reading the history of PlaneShift. You might learn something.

After many generations of the Lemur had passed, Laanx wandered into a cave that was hundreds of times bigger than the one he created, where beings without a name dwelt. At the top he spied a huge stalactite that occupied one third of the vault, and which produced a thin rain of clear water. It was the conic block of rock that held Yliakum.
At the middle of the cave, he saw a deep lake full of life, whose shores were a fertile soil. The Lemurs believed that their god had led them to a new home. Their praises and thanks to Laanx echoed in the cave and many sacrifices were made.
In that moment Laanx became aware of the presence of his followers, and he was stricken by their faith and ingenuity. His heart became a little softer, and he gave his people many powerful and useful things to brighten the cave and make the lake and its shores a place to live. The Lemurs multiplied rapidly, built the ten towns of Kadaikos, and they became a prosperous and numerous populations

Huh? How does this disprove my interpretation? (I did read it before) Even _if_ this city underneath the stalactite _were_ Pradesha, it would not be the origin of the lemurs, nor would it have fallen pray to some disease. I read it that the Lemurs, after having been created _in Yliakum_, split; some stayed (the ones we can play) and the others followed Laanx on it\'s journey through the labyrinth, eventually founding this city that you suggest is Pradesha. Why would the Lemurs of Yliakum claim it to be their origin if they can\'t even know about it? All they might know is that some of them left ages ago... Therefore, this legend can AFAICS only have been created by the Lemurs living in the city underneath the stalactite, and then it would refer to Yliakum!

[dfryer]

There is also a discrepancy with regards to the name \"Yliakum\" - in most usage, it\'s the entire \"land within the stalactite\" (with many cities, hydlaa for example) but elsewhere Yliakum is referred to as a city.  I suspect that this is a typo, could we have some clarification on this?

Gronomist, I couldn\'t find any information linking Pradesha with the Lemurs (Lemuri?)  Am I just missing something, or is this assumed, or is it based on other documents?

Thanks,
Daniel

Edit:

The planet might not really *have* a name, in the sense that we name planets.  We, being surface dwellers, observe that we are on a rock floating through the universe, and give it the name \"Earth\" (in english, at least) since it is made up of.. well, Earth.

Based on that, I would see no reason for the inhabitants of Yliakum & elsewhere not to refer to the surrounding cave walls as \"the Earth\".

[Levski]

Yes, but the gods would, I think.

[Seytra]

The ppl. in Yliakum would probably call it \"rock\", as that\'s what they see in most places. The gods, though... they didn\'t make it, either, AFAICS (at least neither Laanx nor Talad). I don\'t know. It wouldn\'t be pronouncable anyway, I think.

[Crj]

Yes, Yliakum is not a city. This stuff was written VERY long ago. Most things before Planeshft 3D started(before 1998 id say).
Dunno, but i dout Pradesha is where Lemurs came from. Its said that Ahrijani(ancient sages and philosophers that have reached the perfect consciousness and control of mind, body and spirit) stil live there. So it could not be ruined.

[SaintNuclear]

Originally posted by Crj
Dunno, but i dout Pradesha is where Lemurs came from. Its said that Ahrijani(ancient sages and philosophers that have reached the perfect consciousness and control of mind, body and spirit) stil live there. So it could not be ruined.

If they reached high control of their mind, body, and spirit they should be able to live in a ruined place with diseases and the like.
Mages and sages usually live in remote and hard-to-reach places. A ruined city with diseases sounds like a perfect place, especially if they\'re immune to the diseases.