Poll finds 40% of Canadian teens view USA as 'evil'

[Monketh]

True, sadly.  In the same way some college professors preach their liberal views, so some (if not many) Canadian teachers preach that les Etats-Unis is evil.  Government leaders aren\'t much help either.  Every nation has a bloody, patchy, history.

This mostly stems from the Canadian (and teenage) desire to be seen as different, independent.  Canadians do not want to be viewed as just another state of the union, so to speak.  But by being different, they are being the same as many, many, countries in Europe, showing that they aren\'t so different after all.  This desire is foolish and immature, hating somebody just to be different is a nasty concept.  I hope it doesn\'t take root in other places.  

Don\'t get me wrong, Canada\'s all good and stuff, but this is just pathetic.

Note: I never said the US was angelic.  It is neutral.

[DepthBlade]

In the words of FESFES \"lol just lol\"

I am Canadian, I see your government as a evil elite society of old farts but nothing against the majority of the citizens exception \"The White supremicists\" I HATE YOU!!

[Elegrand]

I totally agree with you Monk. And I live in Canada!

[FlippySeal]

If i see a single person insult Canada, im goin straight to the mods to ahv u banned  X(  I\'m Canadian you see quite Patriotic too. I Have one thing to say though, Canada prides itself on togetherness, and refuses to recognize heroes. While the US recognizes outstanding individuals. Although  have my own, *not nice* personal opinion of George Bush, To me he is the only reason the nice CRAZY but nice residents of the US are hated... I dont know what Canada would do without the US. BTW, Monketh, do you know much about Canada\'s history?
Oh, and congrats on your 1001th (should be 1001st) post!! In other words i Agree too

[Half_Pint]

Hmmmm..  I lived in Canada until last month, and I am still a Canadian citizen...  

I would be among the 40%, definitely.  

Mind you, I don\'t consider Americans as evil, I simply see your current government as evil.  I don\'t even think of George Bush as evil though, he\'s too stupid to be evil..  It\'s all the neo-conservatives!  They\'re the evil ones!  Hang them all, I say!  

I don\'t hate the US government to be different; I hate them because they have not been especially good neighbours lately.  

You have to understand, Monk, that the US government hasn\'t exactly gone out of its way to make Canadians happy with them recently.  They have done a lot to make us UNhappy with them...  

Here\'s a short list of what is making us unhappy (in order from most annoying to least annoying):

1) George Bush\'s shunning of Canadian dignitaries after we refused to help invade Iraq.  (It really hurts the national pride when the leader of Trinidad and Tobago is invited to Bush\'s ranch before the Canadian PM.)

2) Softwood Lumber Dispute.  Well, it is CALLED the North American FREE TRADE Agreement.  I think there was a typo, because the American government seems to be calling it the \"Neighbours Are For Tariffs Agreement.\"  Despite NAFTA, there is now an outrageous tariff on all Canadian softwood lumber going into the US.  As a result, thousands of Canadians (mainly in BC) have lost their jobs.

3) Tampa Bay vs. Calgary in Stanley Cup Finals.  (Maybe this should be at the top of the list..   )  With the single act of letting a team from FLORIDA (Is there even any natural ice there??) beat a Canadian team, you have alienated everyone west of Ontario.  Congratulations.  

So, there you have it.  Down with the neo-conservatives!  Up with the American People!  Ya!!!  

EDIT:  Flippy, dude, what is this about Canadians not recognizing heroes?!  Have you ever heard of Terry Fox?  Wayne Gretzky?  Isaac Brock?  

And togetherness?  Do you mean togetherness as in conformity?  Because if so, you are, er, a very American Canadian.  Either that, or you have never been to Vancouver.  Over half of the inhabitants of Vancouver were born outside of Canada, and it is one of the most diverse cities in the world.  The people who live there have different opinions on lots of things, and rarely reach anything even close to a unanimous decision.  

[FlippySeal]

YEAH TOAST!!!!!! lol nvm anyways i couldn\'t have put it better... it\'s the GOVERNEMENT.... get some real peeps in there to focus  on issues not some redneck clowns!
Au contraire mon frere! (On the contrary my brother) Isaac brock was recognized... Gretsky... was recognized...Terry Fox was recognized 2 you can name 2 heroes recognized???!!! After all Confederation happened in 1867 when the BNA act was taken to the queen      so Isaac wasnt really recognized by CANADA but the residents i.e the building of the Brock monument in Niagra Falls (There are 236 steps, counted \'em myself   ) ...
Wait a second.... WTF am i going on about.... he was recognized, so thats 3 heroes....

STILL only 3 heroes! I have read stories, and i have seen many heroes go unrecognized

[DepthBlade]

Here is a example of why we as Canadians hold grudge against USA:
Afganhistan-
   There was a irresponsible U.S pilot bomber who accidently mistaked a Canadian training ground as enemy and dropped a bomb killed 4 Canadian soliders and wounding alot more.

When the pilots got taken in court they should have been removed from the army and put in prison FOR KILLING 4 PEOPLE! Accident or not you took four peoples lives!! One of them came to grips with what he had done and apologized the other however wasn\'t sorry for what he did and listen to this

       got a months deduction of 5 thousand dollars from his paycheck! He got the most leniant punishment possible, why you ask probally because the people he killed did not belong to the GREAT USA!!

BRB finding article!

[rifft]

So here are a few reasons why the US (and Russia when it was a Super Power, are both wrong for what they did)

The US has constantly bombed one country or another for the last 2 or 3 decades. I\'m sorry I can\'t locate the actual refernce now, but it\'s not propoganda, it\'s recorded.

The US economy is a war time economy. When the US is not at war, the economy plumits (again, I\'m sorry that this sounds like I\'m pulling it out of my ass, but I have seen the refence material).

Anyway, I don\'t think evil is the appropriate term. And canadians, as far as I know (and I should know since I live here) are some of the most polite people in the entire world (not that I am, but in general). I think this is true statistically. Anyway, Canada never tried to be different, it just is Canada.

Oh and the US has screwed Canada many, many times, but the US is also the reason why Canada has not needed to keep a standing army for the last 200 years or so.

When Canada was developing the Avero Aero (an jet fighter that could reach the startosphere, I think) the US force Canada to scrap the project because they wanted to maintaine air superiority.

Should the US have done all those things? Maybe, maybe not... the point is, I think Canadians disaprove of the current gov\'t as opposed to the citizens of the US of A. and even though the US has been a pain in the ass, Canada still appreciates them and what they have done for us, I don\'t think you can say the opposite.

Anyway, just my opinions mixed with some facts. Have fun with it.

[DepthBlade]

Yah we have been screwed by the U.S countless times in the last two years that has cripled some parts of our economy and people, but you have to come to realize its their government and maybe those humans they turn into robots (military)

[FESFES]

Ty for using my famous words depth^^

well i lived in canada from the age of 5 months old untill i was 10 (now i live in LA California)
i never had nething against the US when i lived there but now that im older and i know whats going on with the world i think thats its right and wrong

Sadam- we shouldnt have gone after him for having \"weps of mass destuction\" we Should have gone after him cuz he killed More Than 1,000,000 of his own ppl!

Osama- hes a ****** its not nice to kill innocent ppl (my friends knew ppl that died) he deserves to be able to live forever SO he can be stuck in a small black room with nothing in it for the rest of time

i think if evryone was like Canada the world would be more peacefull, but there are some pests that Must be eliminated (like bush) ^^

[Harwen]

Ahahaha...politics...what a load of hogwash.

Its funny to hear most of your hilarious takes on the goverments in the world. And again, its funny to see few of you struggle to do so Wow, this party seems to be missing something....hmmm, jeez this is entertaining.

Either way, I think that this forum should be locked, and soon . Because I feel this could get into a rather nasty flame session. I may be over-reacting, but I think that this falls under the posts about \"religion or racism\" thing, where it can get outta hand.  ?(


Then again, I could be in dire need of a cup of coffe.  

[Half_Pint]

I think it has stayed rather civilized so far...  I mean, no one has actually attacked the American people as a whole, and no one has attacked Canadian people...  I think this has been handled in a very civilized manner, and as long as it stays that way...  

The US is Canada\'s neighbour, whether we like it or not, and we are deeply in their debt for keeping us safe for the last 100 years.  I think Americans are a wonderful people, but I think that the current government is a pack of overgrown schoolyard bullies when it comes to getting what they want.  There are better ways to solve things than throwing your weight around.  

In an RP context, I would call the Bush Administration \"un-Mirthful.\"  

Most of the other people in America, however, are just like everybody else.  They try to live their lives, be fairly successful, and enjoy themselves.  Cheers to that!  

[FlippySeal]

Might i remind you, of the War of 1812.... nvm my math skills suck!! that was 200 years ago 8o  yes well they haven\'t really \"kept us safe\" we just have no enemies. But what is it they say?? \"Must must be risked in war.\"

I call the bush administration things that are bad. (I don\'t want to start backlash or peeps to persecute me:D

Edit: Not to mention, the US is a major trade partner, necessary for our economy.

Double edit:

but I think that this falls under the posts about \"religion or racism\" thing, where it can get outta hand.  

As we are not harassing peeps about their race, nor religion, this is neither, must it qualify for something it would be Nationalism  

[Seytra]

I totally agree, the USA _are_ led by an irresponsible, lying, ruthless and in fact criminal junta. However, the USA has a history of being oppressive and also of protectionism. Their idea of \"free trade\" has, very consistently, always been to allow the US to do what they like and force everybody else to accept that while giving nothing in return. They are awfully quick in putting in tariffs to protect their economy while threatening others with even more tariffs if they even think of doing the same. Also, they use this system to get ppl. to bow to them if they want to do one of their economy-improving wars, mostly lying to their own ppl. and the rest of the world (I think Bush simply was too stupid to lie convincingly).

The same holds true for any international agreement they have signed. The USA only act according to them if if gives them an advantage. If they might loose, they simply ignore or cancel it. But if somebody else tries to do that, tey are first in line to \"ensure that all requirements are met\". Nice, very nice.

I don\'t even start about the US putting themselves above international law and jurisdiction, committing war crimes while accusing others of just that. This is bigoted at best.

I once thought high of the USA, but my feelings currently are at \"despise\" level, an all-time low. If it weren\'t for the US ppl, I\'d like to see the USA fall _really_ low so they can see what it\'s like to be on the other side.

I don\'t condone (war) crime by anybody, mind that. I also don\'t approve of war of any kind.

[FlippySeal]

The war in Iraq never shoulda happened.  And you are right about their economy, they take advantage of every decent non-american person and country to get money. We teach \'em though, ever see \"talking to americans\". Well anyway other countries suffer so the US rolls in the dough, they are the schoolyard bully who beats up kids for lunch money.

This is aimed at the US governement, i was not meaning to offend any American peeps. In fact i find them very funny, and welcoming.