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faldrok

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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2004, 01:03:21 am »
I knew someone would take all of this the wrong way, so I prepared myself.

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And Faldie, I said composed, not written . Also, the part that Kuiper wrote in the top is not a product of the days you are talking about, and neither is most of the rest.


Ok, \"composed\" can mean more than one thing, and I took it the wrong way. My mistake. Also I said over 50%, which is  pretty much true. And, the basis is almost an exact replica of what Hevrah and I wrote. The motto (exactly what I wrote, word for word), the stlye (or sense) of neutrality, the benefitting of members as the (or, one) goal, the not wanting war or fighting *that often* (although I wanted it myself...), etc. were all from the beginning. The exordium by Kuiper is just a restating of what he got from the website and/or ideas from when it started. I know that he did not think of all those ideas by himself, as the Blitzers had them before he joined! BG Council has been around a long time, and many guilds have had them, so they are not your or my idea. The aforementioned stuff is over 50% of the post, so there. I proved my point on that. (I do give Credit of Chapters to latest Blitzer days, though.)

Yes, the current leaders lead; they did not think of more than oh, 20-30% of the major themes that make up the Blitzers. So, give credit where it is earned, and the founder(s) of the guild always get the most credit because it was their idea.

Also, do not confuse the title \"leader\" with the actions of that person. Yes; Skain, Hevrah, Bora, and Manden are all that have been leaders to Blitzers. I know I never made it to the top and that doesn\'t bother me, do you know why? I know I did my part (and, exceedingly more) and I gave the guild my all, whether anyone acknowledges it or not. So, you (and others) are confused and need to settle some things within. Note: I am not bragging or anything, but I did give the guild 110% or more (others did too), but I never had the \"leader\" title, so there is proof that the guild doesn\'t rely 100% on the leader(s).

I am not mad, and you would understand that if you read the last two sentences of my post. Here they are again:

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So, all-in-all, yea I seem pissed, but this is just the way I am. I call it like I see it; always.


One last thing, your summary contradicts the rest of your post, so it is very confusing to see where you are coming from. I also never said the guild couldn\'t grow, but you (and others) are claiming more than your share.

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Manden and Bora are the Dinarchs. And I wouldn\'t have anyone else be my boss (well, in Planeshift).


*cough* Suck-up. *cough*

EDIT: Typos.
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2004, 01:37:04 am »
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To lynx_lupo: What do you mean by true leaders? The ones now?


Uh, I think lynx is reffering to the project him, levski, and phinehas are working on.

Which I simply must talk to Bora about. :baby:

On a side note, you are great.  Too bad you\'re a Texan.
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2004, 09:03:57 am »
First, I would like to express my appreciation to Faldie for keeping this thread active. :)


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So, all-in-all, yea I seem pissed, but this is just the way I am. I call it like I see it; always.
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Yes, you certainly always call it as you see it ?.. but as you may learn not everything you see is as you perceive it. Notwithstanding, you are right about the fact that the Blitzers were established on strong foundations contrived by its early members and leaders (which just happen to include you). It is these foundations which have helped the BG become the great guild it is today. This said, other guilds founded on at least as strong if not stronger foundations have come and gone while the BG  \"? strive Coming together To stay alive.\"  In other words, continue to thrive because of its current members and leadership. I think you should be proud and gratified that the \"current\" BG has kept to its original concepts and manner, which you helped establish, and used them as the building blocks for its basis today instead of throwing them away and starting anew like other guilds have.  For these reasons I think you should only have praise and commendations and not words of criticism for the current BG membership.

On a personnel note I miss having you around in the BG?you and your very vocal and critical commentary about anything and everything?. Keep it up :)

Saz

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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2004, 10:10:35 am »
To Faldrok: You assume a lot, my friend. You assume that I\'m talking about what you think I am. You assume that I am naive. I don\'t appreciate it.

To Kiern: Tell Bora about what?

To Levski: Dvornik is a leader in your guild?!?!! Awesome! I must come and visit, we haven\'t talked since I moved to a computer that can\'t handle MB.  :(

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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2004, 03:42:35 pm »
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Uh, I think lynx is reffering to the project him, levski, and phinehas are working on.

no.

Of course I didn\'t say any names, I meant more people and I didn\'t want to do distribution, which would be innately errouneus, since I don\'t know that much. When will you realise my ambiguous ways? .--.-. :D
What an argument starter. ^^
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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2004, 06:30:02 pm »
Alot of people built this guild, not just one, two or even ten. We are proud to have such a great history, with such great members. However, I am also proud at what the guild is right now, today, and I will be proud in the future... This thread contains the bundled work of all the blitzers, and the words written no longer belong to a person, they are a part of the guild now...

As the world changes
The Blitzers will strive
Coming together
To a brotherhood hive

From the dark forest
And the far plain
People are
In Blitzers bane

Brother and sister
Kran and dwarf
Working together
So none shall starve

As the world changes
The Blitzers will strive
Coming together
To stay alive



Phos, Consul of Commerce of the Blitzers has said

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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2004, 10:00:04 pm »
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Uh, I think lynx is reffering to the project him, levski, and phinehas are working on.

no.

Of course I didn\'t say any names, I meant more people and I didn\'t want to do distribution, which would be innately errouneus, since I don\'t know that much. When will you realise my ambiguous ways? .--.-. :D
What an argument starter. ^^


You fool, quote your sources. :P

What is a \"blitzer\"?  It seems kinda random to me.
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2004, 11:20:19 pm »
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To Faldrok: You assume a lot, my friend. You assume that I\'m talking about what you think I am. You assume that I am naive. I don\'t appreciate it.


If you don\'t want to be misunderstood, state your opinions/ideas/facts/statements more clearly. You, yes you were the one who assumed that everyone knew what you were talking about, but not everyone did. I, for one, did not.

And how come nobody takes my posts the right way? I never said that the guild can not grow/evolve any more; never. So, stop trying to say that is what I mean, because clearly; it isn\'t.

So, really, everyone took things the wrong way; including me. Damn forum discussions, you can never get the true meaning across like you could in a real life conversation.

(Also, it has been a little confusing about IC and OOC, maybe for some. Some was IC and some was OOC, but I am too lazy to specify because they intermixed. :-/)

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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2004, 02:49:11 am »
Kiern: A blitz is german for lightningbolt

Hence Blitzer...

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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2004, 04:05:13 am »
I don\'t think Hevrah and/or Skain knew German, well Skain might have. Not too sure for them. That might be a coincidence, oddly enough as the Blitzer\'s symbol has a lightning bolt in it, but maybe that is why the Lightning Bolt is there, not the other way around or something. I sort of confused myself, but I don\'t think the name Blitz(er) was referring to a lightning bolt at the time, but time changes, right?

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« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2004, 04:37:41 am »
It came from Final Fantasy X, oddly enough from Blitzball...
Ingame name:  Nuv Cerdyn  ~   Member of: The Blitzers Guild

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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2004, 05:37:10 pm »
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To Faldrok: You assume a lot, my friend. You assume that I\'m talking about what you think I am. You assume that I am naive. I don\'t appreciate it.


If you don\'t want to be misunderstood, state your opinions/ideas/facts/statements more clearly. You, yes you were the one who assumed that everyone knew what you were talking about, but not everyone did. I, for one, did not.


Umm... What I said was said to Levski to praise him for his work. I did not say that he had done most of the work, I simply praised him since he was the only one around to praise. If you were unsure of what I meant, it would have been better to remain silent than insult my intelligence. I do, however, share your frustration with forum discussion.

@Phosphus: I\'m sure you don\'t remember me from when I used to run around in MB, but \"hi\" anyway.

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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2004, 11:13:08 pm »
Well, I am so sorry that you thrive on what other people think. Although, I don\'t think I insulted your intelligence. You might have taken it that way, but I did not intend for that to happen. If I was going to do that, I would have came out and said it.

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If you were unsure of what I meant, it would have been better to remain silent...


Well, I don\'t remain silent unless I think it is best to, and it isn\'t like I humiliated, made fun of, or hurt you in any way. For the safety of stopping further arguments (discussions, whatever you want to call it) I will leave it at this:
I am sorry if I insulted your intelligence as it wasn\'t my goal, and I will continue to speak my mind, but I don\'t overdo it like other people.

NOTE: There should be something about Blitzers around here somewhere...

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« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2004, 07:45:04 am »
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First, I would like to express my appreciation to Faldie for keeping this thread active. :)


Sorry saz  :(  but the fact is that this thred was goin down after 3 months of no replys so \'i\' was kinda the one to revive it again :]

(dw were still friends :D )

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« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2004, 07:37:19 am »
Of course, Mondo, and i have no problem giving credit where due.... so thanks.....
especially since by replying to you i further extend the life of this thread :)
 but even you have to admit that it was Faldie\'s \"wild\" comments that kept the thread active afterwards

of course, if anyone else out there would like to comment in anyway about the Blitzers
please feel free to add your two cents (or what ever you think it is worth) here

Saz

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« Last Edit: November 25, 2004, 07:38:12 am by saz »