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Fhinias

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3D models...
« on: July 30, 2004, 06:03:21 pm »
I dont know how to make 3d models yet, but if think the current 3d models have various errors, than can be hopefull fixed by someone wo knows how to doit, well the unproporional and unpleasant mistakes i think there is are the folowing:
  Ylians: i just dont like this model forvarious reasons:
     - the clothes!!, the clothes are rugous and cloth like, but the 3d model reepresen it like it was a skin, and the clothe effect for the arms an pants is just not convincing, this particular 3d model should star with nothing but pants, so that way you could ad extra armor and clothing right abobe the main 3d model, lbut each extra clothing should be an extra model, and then add that clothes model in to the main characte model, that way you can make a realistic swiming system (because swiming with to much clothes is ilogical, and if not, very hard)
      - the hair.......is just horrible (im sorry, i dont mean to insult anyone, really), but is to simple, and almoust all models have the same hair( taking in consideratin that the current models seems to be the same 3d model, with small modifications) i think the raw models shold be bald, and the hair should be made as a diferent model, htat way, wen you are in the character making thing...you could be hable to change hair styles and not just hair color (-_-)
     
   now resuming...this model looks good for a NPC, and still needs to be fixed in matters of skin.....
ill continue with the other models later..^^

(i dont mean to disrespect the current 3d modelers, but if you want to make a grat game you have to very carefuul about this little details, and i know you provblably already working in improvements for thjis current models, but dont make the mistake of leaving the character as they are, or resume your work by copying the other models, i know is a lot of work, but each race should have their own model, and their own animations, again im sorry if i insult anyone..^__^)

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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2004, 06:26:23 pm »
i am good with 3d models, look at my sig, kinda simple, but abstracty :-P anyway, i would be willing to help, non-profit

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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2004, 06:48:57 pm »
Making models is very difficult work (as I\'m sure you\'ll understand, especially if you start learning)... Making realistic clothing is also very difficult, and would also require more work by the programmers.  I think the focus now is on getting basic combat, magic, and monsters working;  I\'m sure that the models will continue to be improved over successive releases.

Anyone who is really interested in helping out should check the website (http://www.planeshift.it) for more info.  Be warned, though, that they demand loyalty and excellence, so many people don\'t end up on the team :)
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2004, 08:03:01 pm »
Also note that all models have been redone for the next CB release since we are now using cal3d for animation and this requires a totally different way to model the animations.

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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2004, 08:50:16 pm »
yea, i already said that this wasnt easy, but they can easily change the 2d art in the Ylians 3d model, so the unrealistic arms and legs clothe could be just skin....

now continuing with my opinion of the 3d models, lets go to the Dermonian female, this model is nicely done, but the face is not really close to perfect and it seems to have the same haircut than the Ylian male o_O

the Dwarf is nice, really good face and nice clothes, also it moves funny, just as a dwar should move ^^, but he still haves the weird arms problem, so does all other 3d models with exeption of the Enkidukai. and the hair is fine, but it could be better.

the Kran model is ok, exept for the lack of clothing(but thas a design problem, and not a 3dmodel prob), but as a personal wish , iwould like them to be bullier, and to have especial animations,(by that i mean thai it should run more brutely, and stuff like that. as the bullyer thing, i mean to have a biger back, longer arms, and a little more short legs, if not, a least make them bigger and with smaller heads ^^

the Enkidukai models are nice to, good leg movement and nice outfit, but theres a problem with their shoulder, i think that small bug can be fixed easily.

the Ynns, well, i really hate this one,(just a personal opinion of taste), but him also needs his own 3d model, because the Ylians copy, just doesnt fit them, they need bigger ans longer necks, a little curvation on their backs, and a set of leather protection stripes, so he dont look like a male gigolo(again this a despective comment that is only because of my own opinion)



well i think thats about it...

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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2004, 09:43:23 am »
I believe these models are only just the basic\'s like MB is.  I\'m sure the models will be different from what they are now.  Look through the news and look at the dwarf model teaser pic.  It\'s great looking, MB is only the basic stuffs.  CB will have better things overall.