Aye aye... full agreement, its not easy being evil and hated.... :thumbdown:
... wow.... I feel so small in comparison to that rant..... Oh well... Im done.
yeah i play a character who although not outright evil, is definately not what you would call 'good.' He is foul-mouthed, obnoxious, thieving, gambling, and sometimes a murderer. what happens when i rp well in my character? "i'm going to report you to a gm for that"
that's all i need to say.
@peacer: You agree but i dont see you being evil.
@zanz: I'm talking about the characters mind, e.g. He thinks that he's better than everyone else and deserves more... get me? :)
;D ;D the steling weapon was like this :
i shout near harnquist that i repair weapon for free,any weapong,well someone get there and gave me her better weapon and a kit,when ready i runaway to the arena,but my evil action desafortunatly was short. >:(
what is wrong with that???i lie and steal ,im sorry for the one who trust in me,but in rp you must know i n who you trust,or as the gm says if you trust anyone "suffer the consecuences"
This thread kept reminding me of something all night, and I finally remembered: Walpurgis XIII by Mike Resnick. I think anyone here interested in this subject should read this short but fascinating fiction novel. Also very good, though not necessarily concerned with evil exclusively is Santiago by the same author.
This thread kept reminding me of something all night, and I finally remembered: Walpurgis XIII by Mike Resnick. I think anyone here interested in this subject should read this short but fascinating fiction novel. Also very good, though not necessarily concerned with evil exclusively is Santiago by the same author.
What an odd coincidence. :)
I think that if you want to play evil you gotta think of two things:
A) RPing evil doesn't mean you gotta be a punk: Stealing items will be in the OOC borderline because there is no way for the victim to get the item back. If there was an IC way, it should be allowed or if you give the person the opportunity to find it or get it back it would be a more complete RP on your part.
2. Some people create evil characters and expect people to flock to them and be their best buddies. I don't invite thieves into my home because they may steal from me. My character doesn't want to associate with evil-doers for the same reason.
I think that if you want to play evil you gotta think of two things:
A) RPing evil doesn't mean you gotta be a punk: Stealing items will be in the OOC borderline because there is no way for the victim to get the item back. If there was an IC way, it should be allowed or if you give the person the opportunity to find it or get it back it would be a more complete RP on your part. Besides, you don't have to actually steal anything at all. It's enough if you RP that you do, pickpocketting, for example. You can use a /roll command to determine success and if you get a certain number your victim may be able to realize what you tried to do. In any case you would be giving people something to talk about.
and,
B) RPing evil doesn't you have to do random crazy things: saying I insult people, I challenge random people (without even talking to them before), or I bring ulbernauts to populated areas doesn't necessarily qualify as "good" evil. Evil characters don't have to act like spoiled children. Your character can be a very lawful evil character. Their bad deed would need to be carefully planned. I like the idea of making enemies and RPing with them one at a time, planning evil things for each one of them.
As for the dwarfettes... I know 6 (and one of them is an alt of mine :D).
@rethius:
but ooc'ly you would know what is bad...
Playing evil is very hard, i tried it once, lot's of repercussions.
The best player, i my opinion, who plays Evil, HAS TO BE Drahlian. :thumbup:
She is a 10/10, i mean just be around her when she R.P's, it's amazing.
I hope she never leaves the game, we should really learn from her. :sorcerer:
~~Datruth
I dont think that would be a good idea,but the only result would be to make more diffical the work for our gm,and they sometimes seems to be very busy and dont want to hear too much explanations about rplaying ,they just say STOP.(sometimes i have felt as a repressed by dictators)
i think a good idea is give to gm a definition of your evil character,they can have a list of it, this way they will be on knowing about how evil is your character,so when someone reports you ,they only ,must to check out if your bad action is IC or OOC.
what do you think ????
My first experience with Drahlian was taking her on after she threatened the lives of a group of dwarves. I used light green potions during the match so I wouldn't actually have to kill her, but she just kept attacking me with hit and run attacks so I had to put an end to it. 5-10 minutes of angry /tells later.... so yeah, bad first impressions. After that, she went around bad mouthing me, especially to her guild.
So.... yeah.
my last trouble begun when a dwarf intents sell to a friend a ruined battle axe by 3 k ,i was informed and i speaks not politely at this person not to sell weapons at excesive price,i told the rules of 25 % over the original selling price,all this arrive at a GM and its answer was this: that rule was an advice in the forums and that was an as indicative rule and ,what set me congealed was that told me that yliakum has undergone a great inflation.... somebody explains me this please- the rules as I see that they are applied to greater or smaller rigor depending on who broke it.... Who are the judge to do worth the rules
the rules of the forum are rules or are behavior advice?
the rules of the forum change of strict rules to behavior advice depending on the person who this implying in the question. it is what I see
Hello Silyph:
I got to tell that in pshift world there are gms and gms,and no all of you act the same way,becouse you are not machines ,but sometimes as Ihave did,you and we all make mistakes,im not talking of you or about noone in concret,but it happens,and is a fact that sometimes players abussed of reporting (and im sure also use tells as asurrance the winning in matter in fact).and as i say there are good players who go provocating and searching reactions and when they get yours one make reports and come back to be the lawful character,and when you intents to explain this,you are not hearing,that hurts.
noone gm had explained me the answer of a gm that i have received lastly.dont give name
and i know im not an :innocent:,but i think i do not a bad rp.please explain me this as i were 4 years old,is this a gm answer to a trouble???
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@datruth: I disagree... I wouldn't say she is the best at evil rp'ing... she is in fact not realistic about it trying to do her plots at harnquist where the goodies usually hangs out... how would it be realistic that people knew her evil plans and she could just get away with it? Not realistic...
why i do not report first...becouse i am against reporting ,if i can resolve myself the matter
a player who sell weapons over of 25% more than the original price(this case a ruined battle axe by 3k)Who's fault is that you bought a too expensive weappon? Did somebody put it in your hands and took the money out of your pocket? Nope. Should we have a rule preventing people to sell stuff at high prices? Nope. If you are... *tries to find a not offensive word*... unconscious enough to buy a pickaxe for 1 mil trias, who's fault is it? [Well, I bought 4 emmeralds for a high price, too, because of some particular circumstances, but I never complained about that.]
i speak with him ,the players denies all,an further starts saying im on diffaming his character
4-the gm answer is that the rule of 25%in rules of forum is and advice and i must know that Ylikum has a great inflaction in prices(its not serius)and the web page is not actualized where is that rule.if its true say it and dont make fool who take our time to read it and then put in practice in game
got it?Yeah... kind of... no... wait... yeah
is harassment try to get adventage from newbies or others?sell it at this price is such a stealingNo, that's not really harassment... And selling it at that price is commerce... Buying it at that price though is... I don't know what to say... bad, I guess.
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@datruth: I disagree... I wouldn't say she is the best at evil rp'ing... she is in fact not realistic about it trying to do her plots at harnquist where the goodies usually hangs out... how would it be realistic that people knew her evil plans and she could just get away with it? Not realistic...
sorry im here only 5 months .is the place near hanquist ,a site who belongs exclusively to good fellows?
why is not realistic a rp when she did it near harni?
My first experience with Drahlian was taking her on after she threatened the lives of a group of dwarves. I used light green potions during the match so I wouldn't actually have to kill her, but she just kept attacking me with hit and run attacks so I had to put an end to it. 5-10 minutes of angry /tells later.... so yeah, bad first impressions. After that, she went around bad mouthing me, especially to her guild.
So.... yeah.
Why would you not attempt to kill her after you challenged?
My first experience with Drahlian was taking her on after she threatened the lives of a group of dwarves. I used light green potions during the match so I wouldn't actually have to kill her, but she just kept attacking me with hit and run attacks so I had to put an end to it. 5-10 minutes of angry /tells later.... so yeah, bad first impressions. After that, she went around bad mouthing me, especially to her guild.
So.... yeah.
Why would you not attempt to kill her after you challenged?
She challenged me.
Why would you not attempt to kill her after you challenged? If that was not your intention to begin with you could have used a /tell to ask her not to duel but to RP a discussion.
Ok, so... you are against reporting. And you can solve your own problems... Well, regarding that I can say only 2 things. Good for us because we have less reports to read and bad for you because that's the thing about reports, they alow us to help you when you have a problem. If somebody reports you, will we trust the writen text or your excuse? And about fixing your own problems... Players should not play cops, that's the GMs job.
Whoever challenged, the other had to accept. Why accept a duel you don't want?
Whoever challenged, the other had to accept. Why accept a duel you don't want?
Why must a duel end with somebody dieing?
I've never actually seen you in game Zanzibar, so i wouldn't know how to rate you.
Maybe once i see you, i'll have a better view, but for now my opinion stands.
~~Datruth
::| What??? *shakes head* Wait, yes, you can duel without anyone dying but that's usually using weaker weapons and having agreed that one would yield at some point... For what you've said, that was not the case. All these could have been discussed before accepting the challenge. It looks like you accepted it but you didn't want to die so you used potions, but I think we're getting a bit off topic here.
Amheh was a terrible roleplayer in my opinion. I read their guild site, and I'm not saying he/she was a bad roleplayer ingame, but the fact that they said "we are moving east to the rubies of eventide" kind of made them seem a little...stupid.
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@datruth: I disagree... I wouldn't say she is the best at evil rp'ing... she is in fact not realistic about it trying to do her plots at harnquist where the goodies usually hangs out... how would it be realistic that people knew her evil plans and she could just get away with it? Not realistic...
sorry im here only 5 months .is the place near hanquist ,a site who belongs exclusively to good fellows?
why is not realistic a rp when she did it near harni?
Okay, a few things...
1: Generaly as peacer said goodie two shose tend to hang out around hanrquist... More so then us villans who tend to hang out at the tavern or int he back allys. :whistling:
2: Actually peacer, you know why its not realistic? and its far from her fault... No one tries to stop her, and those who try simply cannot... Currently the law enforcement of hydlaa is weak, and unformal... The closest thing to justice is what I like to call... "The people's mob" ... which is basicly a bunch of goodies who run around and stand in as the law because they have the power to do so, the peoples mob is very corrupt and has little int he terms of justice... However i wont go into that because that is rather off topic here...
3: The goodies are two busy doing their little pling in crafting to care how many dwarves drahlian kills, and the only goodies that do anything normaly do this.... *ahem* /me sends a healing spell through victum dwarf to cure the disese drahlian put in him.
(I'd like to then refer to daehaz's first post with his wonderful illistration... Now, again, it isn't drahlians fault, because no one tries to stop her, and the ones who do have no idea on how to work with an evil villan in trying to stop them correctly... its not a single step, its a struggle...)
If I did intend to do evil to them, I let them know the plan and whole story. In most cases, they would agree. If not, the plot shifted. Adapt or die.
In my opinion, adding violence and wars and player killing and evil spells and theiving is the best answer. It's what would make things interesting. The problem is finding some sort of ingenius way of making it work!
The thing is... you just know that if things like player-killing .....
http://www.thenoobcomic.com/daily/strip040.html
But what this episode has to do with double arsemode???
http://www.thenoobcomic.com/daily/strip040.html
Thats some good evil :)
I cant wait for double arsemod to be implimented in PS :P
Since I started playing (about 6 months ago), I think I could use my fingers to count evil charactersNot all of the evil characters publicly shows or directly present themselves as being "evil". Don't forget that an evil character is not really evil for him but only acting as his will tells him, so the "evil/good" doesn't mean the same.
in the current state of affairs a evil character really can't do anything beside insulting someone[ ie: backstabing, murdering, kidnapping, torturing, etc...not posiible exept with the accord of the other player]
get creative... rp'ing doesn't have to be supported by game mechanics...
get creative... rp'ing doesn't have to be supported by game mechanics...
This is coming from the guy who roleplays that he can make bottomless pits appear underneath people he doesn't like.
I see Peacer just today appearing through a wall at Brado's tavern cellar - how is it?
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