Worried Sick :P

[Phinehas]

I know you want to move away from this topic, Sangwa, but I just have one question for Moogie...

Where do people like me fit in? I\'ve been around longer than Efflixi, but I\'m ignored. I don\'t mean that in a resentful sort of way, but more in a tone of interested curiousity. Why is it that certain people never really seem to become part of the community, no matter how long they\'re around?

[Xordan]

Because you\'re a stuffy old mage

Nah, I wub you really I never seem to see much of you though. Maybe if you poked around on IRC or ingame you\'d feel less ignored

[Phinehas]

Originally posted by Xordan
Nah, I wub you really

Just because I wear purple, doesn\'t mean I\'m Barney.

Perhaps, but IRC seems so dead. Just people talking a lot of nonsense most of the time, and as for being in-game, well, I need to get a permanent computer...

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Phinehas
Where do people like me fit in? I\'ve been around longer than Efflixi, but I\'m ignored. I don\'t mean that in a resentful sort of way, but more in a tone of interested curiousity. Why is it that certain people never really seem to become part of the community, no matter how long they\'re around?

You are more a part of the community then you probably think.  I\'d explain why, but I don\'t really care to, and it\'s not very interesting.

Furthermore, the over-generalizations made in Mogura\'s post are no where near correct and are mostly just stupid commonly held beliefs.  I don\'t see how she can presume to know what has happend before she came here (I know she started it when she first arrived, but the experiences her \"oldbies\" had is what led them to act the way they did), or the motivations behind the people she has never met or had a conversation with.  

Also not taken into consideration is age, and it is a big factor in how people act toward others.  The longer you stay the less you are the same person you were when you first arrived.

[Phinehas]

... and yet, I\'d still like to hear her opinion...

[Annah]

Also not taken into consideration is age, and it is a big factor in how people act toward others. The longer you stay the less you are the same person you were when you first arrived.

 That\'s not entirely correct. People just don\'t change, they just \"see\" other horizons as well. I guess you didn\'t understand what I just said, so to say it simple, they\'re always the same, even if sometimes they\'re \"masking\" it, wanting it or not.

 And Phinehas, why the hell her opinion counts that much for you?

 

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Annah
 That\'s not entirely correct. People just don\'t change, they just \"see\" other horizons as well. I guess you didn\'t understand what I just said, so to say it simple, they\'re always the same, even if sometimes they\'re \"masking\" it, wanting it or not.

I probably oversimplified a bit, but I didn\'t really mean that the person themselves change, just that the way they interact with others does over time.  For example, a lot of people you knew in high school are going to act completely different in 3-5 years.  Not everyone, of course.

The point is, to assume that someone acts the way they do because of actually when they joined the game throws away a lot of variables that can make them the way that they are.  The importance of an online forum (or game, depending on when you joined) in someone\'s life is being overestimated here, some people it will change and others it will have no significant affect on.

It\'s easy to see I\'m not the same as I was when I first joined, look at my posts from three years ago.  But to say that is because of this forum?  I highly doubt that.  (That\'s in explanation of the stupid beliefs I mentioned in the last post i.e. the \"bitter oldbie\" mogura describes)

The \"cycle\" is simply this - Those who lose interest in or become tired of Planeshift, leave.  Those who either like the game or support the concept, stay.  The end.

EDIT:  I edited these last two posts multiple times...so if there\'s random words thrown in some places, it\'s because I missed deleting them.

[Moogie]

*Nods* Like I said, everyone\'s view of the \'cycle\' will be different due to their individual experiences and opinions. I spoke only for myself, and was hoping I made it clear enough in my post... but perhaps I didn\'t.

Phinehas: It\'s harder to tell where the quiet ones fit in, because of their relative obscurity... I would assume most go with the flow and behave much in the same way as others, but I honestly don\'t have much of an idea. I\'d have to be here way longer and actually study things hard to see that deeply into it.

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Moogie
*Nods* Like I said, everyone\'s view of the \'cycle\' will be different due to their individual experiences and opinions. I spoke only for myself, and was hoping I made it clear enough in my post... but perhaps I didn\'t.

You did.  I never had the intention of arguing your post but was just replying to the others and got a bit carried away. :baby:

[Phinehas]

Originally posted by Annah
 And Phinehas, why the hell her opinion counts that much for you?

 

They don\'t, consider me an interested passerby.

@Moogie: Quiet? I\'m quiet? I\'ve got almost as many posts as Efflixi. Just because I\'ve been around a few months longer, I never considered myself \"quiet\".

*shrugs*

[Kwip]

While sad I may be worried I am not.  While people leave more come some bad leave and some good but some bad come and also good.  While it may be hard to think that someone can not be replaced (and they wont not completely) there will be those that fill the places left.  These new people will be different, have different quirks but will still come to replace those from before.

And to my own survival I am hopefull.  Unlike Annah who tries to see everyone as his equal I like to see everyone as being above me (which is not that far from the truth).  Though while this mindset is hard to keep without getting depressed at least I wont be old and stuffy

[Sangwa]

Yeah. Life\'s like that, some die and some are born. And the rest adapts to the situation.
It\'s as simple as any cycle.

The \"cycle\" is simply this - Those who lose interest in or become tired of Planeshift, leave. Those who either like the game or support the concept, stay.

And Kwip, not only the humble, benevolent and wise rely on modesty. The vain also take good advantage from it.
It doesn\'t matter how you look upon people. Everyone uses everyone else, the only thing you gotta care is how to combine the best way to use others with the easiest way of being used.

Anywho, if no one will throw this back on topic I guess this thread might as well be closed. I got my answers already.

[dorbian]

Originally posted by Demarthl
isnt Incensio Tenebrae gone? or one of those, i remember playing guild wars and i checked their site for that which said something along the lines of \'they\'ve moved on\' :s
bah, i\'d prefer our unique asses any day to these five minute wonder asses

Incensio tenebrae isn\'t a guild for Planeshift anymore, some of the member couldn\'t play the game.

We also wanted to play more then just Planeshift as a guild, so we became a multi guild.

Some of the members still play planeshift, we just don\'t associate the guild with the game anymore since we all feel the game lost the thing we wanted ( and probably the wait for CB killed alot with us too ).

I can assure you that some people will check back here once in a while, i officially left the game, i just checked the forum and found this thread and had the urge to post.

No this doesn\'t mean i will be back to discuss stuff.
If you want to talk to us go to http://www.dorbian.nl/it2 and go to the forums.

We will always answer... eventually

-Dorbian

[AendarCallenlasse]

For us, \'oldbies\' were people like Kada, Kiern, Paxx, Link, etc.

-=cough=-

[Annah]

Originally posted by AendarCallenlasse

For us, \'oldbies\' were people like Kada, Kiern, Paxx, Link, etc.

-=cough=-

 I think you belong to \"etc.\"