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9/11 Pentagon - Plane or Missile?
« on: September 06, 2004, 01:24:32 am »
http://pages.infinit.net/noc/pentagon.swf

Check it out, draw your own conclusions.

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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2004, 02:05:20 am »
Just wondering if you found it on the Steampowerd forums.
I saw this a couple of days ago, was\'nt shocked, but it did get me thinking.



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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2004, 02:22:46 am »
Nope, my dad sent it to me... It\'s a thinker.

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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2004, 02:27:02 am »
Its not mentioned in the movie, but i also noticed how the governement made a big deal about hte towers, but the never said ANYTHING about the pentagon, other than that it happen. Its like they wanted us to forget.



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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2004, 03:00:30 am »
Yeah, that\'s a good point. The towers overshadowed the Pentagon alot more than it probobly would have if things played out without interference.

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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2004, 03:15:18 am »
*ahem*

Might I point out how easy it is to form a conspiracy!  
Might I point out how easy it is to fake images and video!  
Everybody looks for a way to make the US Government look bad or sneaky.  This is like saying Bush organized Sept. 11!  (If anybody tells me that Bush organized Sept. 11 hijackings, they deserve to be shot out of stupidity.  I realize that this is the internet, and it\'s possible someone is that stupid/liberally biased.)

If you do watch the video, the part where it shows Pentagon camera footage of the impact, You will see the tail of an aircraft.


Sheesh...



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Yeah, that\'s a good point. The towers overshadowed the Pentagon alot more than it probobly would have if things played out without interference.


Uh... Since when did the media care about the Pentagon?  If the towers weren\'t hit, it would have gotten more coverage, but truthfully, the ratings weren\'t there so neither was the media.
The Military wouldn\'t make a big deal out of it anyway.  They have a job to do.
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2004, 03:25:58 am »
After watching that flash presentation, I did some additional research...

About that area of the Pentagon and its intact windows:
?\'It was the only area of the Pentagon with a sprinkler system, and it had been reconstructed with a web of steel columns and bars to withstand bomb blasts. The area struck by the plane also had blast-resistant windows?2 inches thick and 2,500 pounds each?that stayed intact during the crash and fire. While perhaps 4,500 people normally would have been working in the hardest-hit areas, because of the renovation work only about 800 were there?.\' More than 25,000 people work at the Pentagon. [Los Angeles Times 9/16/01 (C)]\"

Here\'s some additional info:

...with all the light post it took out, its trajectory may not have allowed it to first hit the \"Pentalawn,\" but to instead fly straight into the building.

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From the accounts, Flight 77 was most definitely hijacked,
but where did this plane go if not into the Pentagon?
I haven\'t heard of any other incidents that could explain the deaths of its passengers.

And why did the FBI confiscate all the videos?  What is there to hide?

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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2004, 04:00:50 am »
Monketh, can you show me where you see the tail?  Take a screenshot and circle it if you can, please :).  It\'s just that I don\'t see it.
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2004, 04:50:05 am »
It was very convincing the video but..I would rather wait for actual proof outside of the internet to form my conclusion, to easy to manipulate things upon the internet. And like Monketh said form conspiracies.

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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2004, 04:54:29 am »
Its a hoax...

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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2004, 04:57:59 am »
Whenever you hear an urban legend, first check snopes.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2004, 04:58:14 am »
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Everybody looks for a way to make the US Government look bad or sneaky.

They are. On several occasions.

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This is like saying Bush organized Sept. 11!  (If anybody tells me that Bush organized Sept. 11 hijackings, they deserve to be shot out of stupidity.

No, it isn\'t like that at all. Maybe it was something other than a plane, and they did not want stir up any more fear then already existed, so they just made it look like part of the tower/plane tragedy. There are other reasons why the government would hide something other then them having actually caused what they are hiding... while the US government has it\'s issues, I have faith that nobody in it would cause such a  thing.
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If you do watch the video, the part where it shows Pentagon camera footage of the impact, You will see the tail of an aircraft.

Sorry, I don\'t see it. Take a screenshot like Levski suggested?

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Yeah, that\'s a good point. The towers overshadowed the Pentagon alot more than it probobly would have if things played out without interference.


Uh... Since when did the media care about the Pentagon?  If the towers weren\'t hit, it would have gotten more coverage, but truthfully, the ratings weren\'t there so neither was the media.
The Military wouldn\'t make a big deal out of it anyway.  They have a job to do.


The Pentagon is the headquarters of national defense... you\'re saying that an attack on it would not bring about alot of media attention?

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Also, how is the confiscated video footage explained? How about a 757 flying 2 feet from the ground and over a highway? What about the witnesses? Though, on the same note, you\'re right, there is no proof that any of it is true. This is, after all, the internet and is full of mistruths. Although the movie is, atleast in my opinion, interesting regardless.

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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2004, 05:30:51 am »
the one question that has to be asked has been asked. if flight 77 didn\'t fly into the pentagon, then where is it?

onc ethat question can be answered by the conspiracy then it stands a greater chance of with standing serious scruntiy.

beside it is easy to create conspiracies about such events. i should tell you guys sometime about the one that surrounds apollo 13... before they get to me.
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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2004, 06:19:05 am »
About the plane wreckage, how the hell would rubble from a plane be identifyable in a giant pile of building rubble?
Maybe this was one of Iraq\'s \"weapons of mass destruction\" :rolleyes:

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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2004, 07:43:29 am »
Look this is all bs. Someone really bored just made somthing up

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\"Its not mentioned in the movie, but i also noticed how the governement made a big deal about hte towers, but the never said ANYTHING about the pentagon, other than that it happen. Its like they wanted us to forget.\"
 
A: The people in the pentagong where government workers and stuff and not \"civilians\". Also not near as many people died in the pentagon as the towers. Also, the towers where in the middle of a big city and the pent. wasnt.

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