sainthood

[sesmi]

i think, that you shoud be rewarded if you help the game,so if you do somthing like avretise ps on a forum or somthing or catch a rule brecker, you are cannonised!!! if you\'re a saint,the word \"saint\" apears in fromt of your name in game( like for me it whoud be \"saint sesmi\" ) AND to prevent noobs from puting \"saint\" in front of ther name when they register and get credit for somthing they never did, your saints also have gold lettering when they talk, and ther name is also gold. ALSO ther\'ll be a \"hall of saints\" where there are statues of all the saints in the land, no you don\'t get any real reward for being a saint, as people who do it for the reward whoud\'int be saints at all whoud they? please NO FLAMEING!!

[Monketh]

Your suggestions for measures for which a person might gain this \"Sainthood\" are both too easy and too hard at the same time.  Advertising would ceratinly become spam.
Unfortunately, it also means people without skills to contribute would be unable to attain such a thing.

If anyone is to become a saint, it should be because of their actions, not a level, not a contribution, not spamming another forum.  If you could dedicate yourself to being a monk in-game, helping others without regard to yourself, and continueing to do so whilst remaining a public figure, you might earn enough respect among the community to become a \"Saint\".  
A possibility might be that this \"Sainthood\" could only be awarded post-humously, (with returns of a character being very, very, rare, spiritual moments) so one would actually have to give up something.

[DepthBlade]

Um this is just a quick way for someone to gain respect or reputation I think. If you help the game you shouldn\'t be rewarded..why? Because the people creating this game are not receiving paychecks for this game they are doing it for fun . They are letting us enjoy their creation and take part in it, if we are helping..that is just us contributing to their already made sacrifices for PlaneShift. Our reward is being able to play PlaneShift..don\'t forget that!

[sesmi]

please read my whole post, it also says \"stoping rule breckers!!!!\" being nice to ppl is also a good idea, thanks a lot

[DepthBlade]

so..? How is that reason for reward? Your whole idea floats around getting something in return, as I have already stated Planeshift is your reward. Stopping \"Rule Breakers\" is for your benefit.

[Monketh]

As I suggested, it would be better to be known unofficially as a Saint within the Community.  
A.It\'s possible.
B.You have to earn it and you receive only respect as your reward.

[Seytra]

Originally posted by sesmi
please read my whole post, it also says \"stoping rule breckers!!!!\" being nice to ppl is also a good idea, thanks a lot

I agree with Monketh and DepthBlade on this. If you\'d start handing out rewards to ppl. who have reported someone, this would then create something very bad: framing and over-scrutiny. Ppl. would actually be looking for anything that they could report so that they might eventually reach some sort of critical threshold if they only report sufficient little things. This would create a very unpleasant system. Reporting should be a last dirch thing, which should only be used after negotiation has failed or if the rule breach is so severe that it must be dealt with immediately (like heavy cheating). Also, ppl. could report others for things they didn\'t actually do (or that they are not quite certain of).

I would not want any of this. Also, you\'d likely not gain nor deserve any respect for reporting any minor thing, you\'d do much better trying to persuade.

Reporting flaws and exploits is normal, i.e. nothing that deserves extra respect! Not doing so, however, deserves extra shame. (I.e., good policy should be natural.)

If we start to rely on some abstract entitiy to govern things, society is going to degrade by comfortably handing their freedoms away and soon we will have a report-and-defend system where nobody even talks (let alone tnink about something they didn\'t like about someone else but instead reports it and then waits for a verdict. (sounds familiar, doesn\'t it? *cough* Court system *cough*).

Also, I don\'t think they were not nice to you, sesmi, they just disagreed with you.

[Icefalcon]

Agreed, if they devs aren\'t getting any kind of pay or reward, even with all the work they do, why should you. If I caught someone cheating, I would report it because I care about the game and I don\'t want it to end up with half the people using cheats to raise their skills to uber-levels. Where is the fun then? I wouldn\'t even take a reward if I was offered it.

[sesmi]

no no no no!!!!!! i mean like if you catch a well known hacker or scammer and get him banned, then you become a saint, or you mabye can make it ingame (like stop a certian nember of theves and you become a minor saint of something like that)

[Icefalcon]

Originally posted by Icefalcon
 If I caught someone cheating, I would report it because I care about the game and I don\'t want it to end up with half the people using cheats to raise their skills to uber-levels. Where is the fun then? I wouldn\'t even take a reward if I was offered it.

Originally posted by Sesmi
please read my whole post

and...

Originally posted by Sesmi
please NO FLAMEING!!

Its bound to happen with threads like this...

[Adeli]

I like the idea of Sainthood, but I detest your reasons...

I thought this might be about doing great things IN GAME and being known as a Saint for it, that would be cool, just like doing evil things you\'d become a Fiend.

This would be very cool RP I think. I mean really great, and really evil things, so the titles are rare. As I know very little of CB, I am not sure what sort of things this would entail... to me PS is a crystal hunt.

So, what do you think of my idea of Sainthood?

PS: FLAMING has no E...

[Myrtl]

This is an ok idea but i dont think it would ever be put in place. No one would know where to draw the line of what is classified as sainthood or not. You would have to have a detailed document you put this in effect.

[Adeli]

That was my line of thought too.
Too little is known about the game to make it any more thorough though... oh well, maybe later.

[Moogie]

I agree with the majority of opinions here; catching a hacker or a rulebreaker is not grounds for a reward. It is something you are EXPECTED to do if you play the game or have any part in this community.

RP Sainthood is a touchy subject. It could be implemented, but the rules for it had better be extremely accurate and fair for everyone. Personally, I think that\'s an impossible task.

[Xordan]

If you help out enough ingame, you might get a chance to become a GM. And being a GM is 1337