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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2005, 04:01:42 am »
Such titles can only be given from perception so to you those objects would be considered unmovable/unstoppable to you or someone else but are not really.
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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2005, 04:14:33 am »
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Because when you step off them you become insane. Simple as that. You know the people that step off the pedistle of science do? They tell you that a copper pipe filled with salt and rocks, stirred for 34 minutes and put in a microwave will power the earth for 45 million years. Thats what happens. Seriously, when you stray to far from the laws, you rmind starts messin\' with you.


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NEVER say things like that to a person who works with magick.

Please, just don\'t say something like that to me again.

I\'ve seen and done enough things beyond the \"laws\" of science to know they are... bendable... at the least.
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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2005, 04:31:58 am »
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According to physics there are no unstoppable forces, or especially unmovable ones. An object has to rest on something, it cant just float on its own in nothing and have any resistance. Therefore there are no unmovable objects, and especially no unstoppable ones. This conversation is hereby void of any logic whatsoever.


Which physics are you useing here?

Every thing delt with by astrophysics sits in a void and has resistance. And belive it or not both unmoveable object and unstopable force are described in astro physics, however they are defined as being thus relative to surrounding objects.

Well anyways both unmovable object and unstopable fore are described as: an object with an emense gravitational force. Anotherwords a singularity.


Now can anyone tell what happens when two singularitys collide?

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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2005, 04:35:58 am »
Ah likie a black hole. That undestructable.
But 2 black hole by eachother? Im guessing they would just be stuck to eachother and do nothing to eachother.
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2005, 06:22:13 am »
Magick?  HA!  You have no power here in the real world.

Ahem, I am going to agree with the \'un\' crowd.  These things don\'t exist.  That\'s why we have Mr. Rogers and the land of Make-beleave.  And PS.

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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2005, 06:37:09 am »
you have to ask GOD this question :D

he knows...

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but logically unstoppable force changes direction or bounces off opposite direction, while unmovable force stands there still.. thus both continuing the cycle i guess

this is since you didn\'t say that unstoppable force is aslo destroying anything in path
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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2005, 06:38:03 am »
This is stupid. There is no such thing as an unmoveable force because all matter is moving, or vibrating, constantly. The absense of complete movement is at absolute zero, the utter lack of energy, and is impossible to reach. However, unstoppable forces are more realistic, but they faze out after a very long time and can pass through most objects, like radio waves. The best answer I can provide is that the unstoppable object will pass through the \"heavy stationary\" object, or simply bounce off and continue its trajectory in a different direction.
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2005, 07:09:00 am »
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Originally posted by Noctis Lamnia ...

NEVER say things like that to a person who works with magick.

Please, just don\'t say something like that to me again.

I\'ve seen and done enough things beyond the \"laws\" of science to know they are... bendable... at the least.


This clearly shows that you know not the definition of \"law\" nor \"science\" :rolleyes: I used to do that whole \"I\'m going to call it \'magick\' because it\'s different\" thing too. It\'s nonsense. What you\'re really bending is your head, not the spoon.
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2005, 07:24:41 am »
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Originally posted by Noctis Lamnia ...

NEVER say things like that to a person who works with magick.

Please, just don\'t say something like that to me again.

I\'ve seen and done enough things beyond the \"laws\" of science to know they are... bendable... at the least.


This clearly shows that you know not the definition of \"law\" nor \"science\" :rolleyes: I used to do that whole \"I\'m going to call it \'magick\' because it\'s different\" thing too. It\'s nonsense. What you\'re really bending is your head, not the spoon.


I spend about 10 minutes after watching matrix trying to bend the spoon.. however that\'s normal.  If you have also tried but are still trying, that\'s not normal :D

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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2005, 07:39:55 am »
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I spend about 10 minutes after watching matrix trying to bend the spoon.. however that\'s normal.  If you have also tried but are still trying, that\'s not normal :D



Why bend spoons when you can punch thru bricks?


While it is primarily about hitting the brick properly you do have to bend yourself a little bit in the head , but this is due mainly to what we are taught as children.


And haveing strong chi helps :)

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« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2005, 07:49:19 am »
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but logically unstoppable force changes direction or bounces off opposite direction, while unmovable force stands there still.. thus both continuing the cycle i guess


This might work if it was a concave curved surface that the unstoppable force hit at just the right angle. Any other way and it would have to bounce off at an angle, and unless there\'s something I\'m missing in how something bounces off something else at an angle, it would have to come to a complete stop in order to change direction. (Feel free to correct me in the event I\'m wrong about this point.)

Oh, and to those of you who are complaining about the plausibility of this, we know it\'s well nigh impossible. It\'s just a thought exercise. And the magick discussion can go elsewhere :D
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« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2005, 10:40:26 am »
\"What happens when an unstoppable force hits an unmovable force?\"

This is too easy, If there *is* an unstopable force then theres no such thing as an unmovable force.

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« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2005, 11:37:22 am »
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Originally posted by Noctis Lamnia ...

NEVER say things like that to a person who works with magick.

Please, just don\'t say something like that to me again.

I\'ve seen and done enough things beyond the \"laws\" of science to know they are... bendable... at the least.


This clearly shows that you know not the definition of \"law\" nor \"science\" :rolleyes: I used to do that whole \"I\'m going to call it \'magick\' because it\'s different\" thing too. It\'s nonsense. What you\'re really bending is your head, not the spoon.


I spend about 10 minutes after watching matrix trying to bend the spoon.. however that\'s normal.  If you have also tried but are still trying, that\'s not normal :D


 I\'ve done it. Its not magic, its science. OMG

That whole bending spoon crap was a trick an old magician did in order to try and start his own cult, showing that he was some sort of magical savior. But he was later exposed as a fake. You can easily bend the spoon if you rub the weak end between the handle and the spoon itself with your thumb and index finger. If you rub it long enough, the friction will heat the weak metal and can be easily bent with your thumb, but you can be slick enough to make it look like you did it with your mind.

There is no spoon, and it is not scooping out your eyes.
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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2005, 01:44:21 pm »
well there isnt a \"yes or no\" type thing when it comes to physics.  everything comes down the strength and weight on a scale, not just \"infinate\" weight and \"infinate\" power.  so errrr
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« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2005, 01:51:08 pm »
thats exactly right