Time Travel

[Annah]

therefore
0.(9) = 1

 Actually, no. It will never be one, from the simple reason it is an undetermined number. And what I just showed is a basic example from philosohpy, that shows nothing is how we believe it to be
 And theoretically you can\'t do operations with that kind of numbers. What you\'ve just did are just approx. operations used in lower class grades.
 Now really, don\'t argue with this  

 And I can show you many many many more examples, like, that involves radicals, area of a triangle etc.

 Just know that math is not a certain science how is supposed to be, and what you teach at school is nothing

 And, like math ... there are other sciences. Like i said in my 1st post here, every science is \"right\" and \"wrong\" in the same time

 Arzosah, I don\'t live in US either. Romania here. But we still use period \" ( ) \". It\'s easier than to have 0.99999...

[Draklar]

This comes from another member of this community, way more educated than me:

if i remember right 0.9 (with that funny line above it) is defined as 1, its an axiome

Axioms are what math is built on, Annah

- Swords

[Arzosah]

Originally posted by Annah

therefore
0.(9) = 1

 Actually, no. It will never be one, from the simple reason it is an undetermined number. And what I just showed is a basic example from philosohpy, that shows nothing is how we believe it to be
 And theoretically you can\'t do operations with that kind of numbers. What you\'ve just did are just approx. operations used in lower class grades.
 Now really, don\'t argue with this  

Nonsense ;-)
0.99... = 1
Me and Draklar just proved it.
And saying you can\'t do operations with that kind of numbers is nonsense as well!

Now, show me those other ways you have to prove mathematics wrong.

You failed the first test, try again

[Foresteer]

math O.O MATH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! logical order at its very worst!!! its within the confines of only this dimmention.. not to metion i suck *** at it!! math is evil! *Runs in circles chanting something illegably about guppies and his shoe size* \"oh isn\'t that nice some nice men in white coats are here to help me with this math oh wow a special math skill jacket! can i put it on please?! oh boy we are going for a ride to the math institute! i can meet a doctor there!\"

seriosly i am very good at grasping everything.. except math.. which turns my mind into a slush of synoptic silly putty.. in baby speak \"special needs class\" type explanation whatever are ya\'ll talking about? (i ph34r math O.O)

[Annah]

yes, is taken to be one. but it\'s not! It will never be
 It can\'t

 * EDIT *

 err, do you have any philosophers near by? If yes, go right away and they\'ll tell you exactly what I\'ve just said
 And I won\'t stay to say the other ways. Mostly because I have to stay to think of some namings in English

[Arzosah]

I don\'t have a problem with philosophy, but stating things that are just bull faeces ( ) is not considered philosophy by me ;-)

(And by that, I mean: stating that 0.99... is not 1)

[Foresteer]

well as far as my math goes i can say for sure .99 doesn\'t equal one.. just like .99 doesn\'t equal .98 now what on earth is the relevence of .99?

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Foresteer
well as far as my math goes i can say for sure .99 doesn\'t equal one.. just like .99 doesn\'t equal .98 now what on earth is the relevence of .99?

Check the previous page. Me and Arzosah proved that it equals it there

Also if some philosopher talks about math while neglecting axioms then at all means he shouldn\'t be taken seriously

- Swords

[Foresteer]

and read my post about 3 posts before your post.. in it a state i am at pre-kindergarten at math .. therefore i didn\'t grasp a single word of that exchange XD and holy crap whats an axiom?

[Olig]

1/3 = 0.(3)    (or 0.3 repeating, didnt know that until now)
2/3 = 0.(6)
1/3 + 2/3 = 1
0.(3) + 0.(6) logically must be equal to 1 no matter what your philosopher tells you. I\'ve already mentioned that these numbers cannot be properly calculated on calculators, because of their infinity, so their answer of 0.(9) is wrong.


There is no insanity to math. Move on. Nothing else to see here.

[Draklar]

Oh man, how could I not notice that before

Originally posted by Annah
 (1 : 3) + (2 : 3) = ? ... is it still one?  :rolleyes:

Let\'s state the obvious:

1 : 3 = 1/3 = 0.(3)

well you pointed that out yourself, right Annah?
And now the funny part.
If
0.(9) does not equal 1
then tell me in what way
0.(3) equals 1/3

0.(3) goes into infinity, never actually reaches 1/3. But it equals it. It is a must for your theory to be true.
Once more, let\'s use maths:

x = 0.(3)
10x = 3.(3)
10x - x = 3.(3) - 0.(3)
9x = 3
x = 1/3

therefore
0.(3) = 1/3

So what am I getting at?

You used the fact that 0.(9) = 1 to \"prove\" 0.(9) does not equal 1

- Swords

[Annah]

Man, maybe you didn\'t understand what I wanted to say.
 1/3 + 2/3 = 3/3 = 1 right? This if you work with fractions ...
 But, if you do each operation, it will be a number with infinite decimals (0.999999999999999999999.....), a number that will never be 1, that is for sure.
 You just can\'t work like you did to prove me, because you did it contrary than what I said ... you used approximations.
 This is the most basic for of math imprecision, but used in complicated formulas, it fuc*s up most of them.
 And it\'s not just me to say this, there were math. teachers that proved this as well (ok, with some more complicated ways, but though ...).

 

logically must be equal to 1 no matter what your philosopher tells you.

 And what means \"logical\" Olig? Actually, it means what other said before you right? And if many are using it, then it\'s logical?

 * EDIT *

 Drak, we\'re both too stubborn, so I guess we\'re getting nowhere, because we\'ll keep supporting what we say.
 So back to topic
 Time Travel? Yes and no

[Draklar]

Oh no annah, you won\'t get away from this one

tell me exactly how you moved from
(1 : 3) + (2 : 3)   to   0.(9)

If what you say is true then you couldn\'t do it by

(1 : 3) + (2 : 3) = 0.(3) + 0.(6) = 0.(9)

So what is the other way to do it? Please, show me

- Swords

[Annah]

Oh, ok ...
 I think I\'ve actually found something better
 1/3 = 0.333333333333333333333333..... I mean 0.(3) right? That means an infinte number of decimals.
 2/3 = 0.66666666666666666666666666666667 - that means a finite number.
 You can\'t do an operation between the two of them
 So, therfore you won\'t have an 1 not even if you jump from Empire State Building

 * EDIT *
 But, if you want to use approximations you\'ll have this:
 0.99999999999999999999999999999967 - which is also a finite number, that will never be one as well

[Draklar]

You still didn\'t explain where you got 0.(9) from

And 2/3 = 0.66666666(6) it\'s infinite :rolleyes:

1/9 = 0.(1)
3/9 = 0.(3)
6/9 = 0.(6)
8/9 = 0.(8)
9/9 = 0.(9) = 1

- Swords