The Hidden Society

[druke]

how many of these kinda of things have tried to be intorduced over the last..2 years or so, heck thats just since i\'ve been here

[Kiern]

:rolleyes:

Annah does whatever he feels like, we all know that by now.  What\'s the point in arguing?

[Moogie]

Nobody needs to be in a \"Secret Society\" to be helpful and useful people of the community. From what I have read in this thread, it seems these people just want to set themselves apart from the rest of us- becoming

\"a small community themselves.\"

Why split up the community and shove a bunch of people in a guild when they\'re just as useful out of it, and how can you claim that\'s not just done for the \'elevated status\' of having this guild\'s name tagged to the end of theirs? If it\'s not for the name, why join? Does it mean you can\'t all be friends just because you\'re not grouped with a fancy title?


Annah\'s mind works in mysterious ways. Rather like a broken clock, it keeps ticking the same second over and over, as if time never moved on... the hand stuck in the past, forever.

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Icefalcon
Bah, you did an awesome job keeping yourselves hidden. I never knew about it.

Well it turns out, that some members didn\'t know it still exists as well

- Swords

[Efflixi Aduro]

Hey Annah told me to expect a surprise fom him on AIM... Guess this was it

*is surprised*

[TheRedMonk]

and how can you claim that\'s not just done for the \'elevated status\' of having this guild\'s name tagged to the end of theirs? If it\'s not for the name, why join? Does it mean you can\'t all be friends just because you\'re not grouped with a fancy title?

If you are looking for fame, you don\'t make the society secret Moogie. Like Sangwa said, it was a good idea that would work or simply not work. It was worth a shot and there was nothing to lose...
People are being hostile for no reason and the fact that the new players are the ones understanding and the oldbies the ones critizicing, shows a lot in my opinion. The newbies don\'t try to turn this into something they must hate, instead they have an open mind and see it as it is meant to be seen.

[Kiern]

These people will argue with whatever Annah does, even if he were to help every newbie he sees...somehow he\'s screwing everyone over.

Because people use words such as \"hidden\" and \"secret\" doesn\'t mean anything, especially now.  It is no different then an invite-only guild that tries to benefit the community, I don\'t see anyone putting forth the same argument against those guilds.

In conclusion, I don\'t know where I was going with this.  But I\'m sure it was good, anyways.

[Auran]

Pah just include moogla in it and see how soon it goes up in smoke !! X( *Shakes fist at the Moogle*

Naw just kidding . I love Moogla too much to be mad at her about anything . *pinches moogle\'s cheeks* . I am sad that you have stopped talking to old Auran at all:( Did I do something wrong little lady? If so forgive me. You see I have grown old and grouchy and sometimes do things that i don\'t really mean to, bumbling fool that i am. . Come on find a little nook in your big heart for poor old Auran too. I promise i won\'t take up much space and will be quiet as a mouse .

Now about that society:
Try and get done what I wanted to do in the first place. Do that annah and i\'ll take my hat off to you. Its what PS needs. Errion knows all about it. You have most of the structure in place whereas i could barely get my plan off the runway.

To everyone else:

Come on give Annah a break! The americans gave bush a second chance, doesn\'t Annah deserve something similar. I can bet Annah never hurt an iraqi fly in his whole life. Don\'t elect him president of the world but let him try and show you he\'s better than you think. Follow the example set by that splendid and enlightened race called Americans (Yeah right!! :D)

[Merdarion]

Originally posted by Moogie
Nobody needs to be in a \"Secret Society\" to be helpful and useful people of the community. From what I have read in this thread, it seems these people just want to set themselves apart from the rest of us- becoming

\"a small community themselves.\"

Why split up the community and shove a bunch of people in a guild when they\'re just as useful out of it, and how can you claim that\'s not just done for the \'elevated status\' of having this guild\'s name tagged to the end of theirs? If it\'s not for the name, why join? Does it mean you can\'t all be friends just because you\'re not grouped with a fancy title?

Moogie you are taking my words and mess around with them, I wanted to say that It is a small comunity of friends. Are you going to tore me apart in the air, \'cause i and some friends made a little ingame gamble community.

What is so wrong to form a guild out of friends, Many others did, I would also do if I had friends who would be willing. Remember back into the setting of some fantasy books, there where \"witch circles\", \"knight Orders\"
Why cant we have a group of friends.

A guild is a group of people who are changing the world together.

They are a group of people who are changing the world tofether.

Only one difference They are close friends to each other.

So  a group of friends who are together changing the world isnt allowed to call them a guild, cause they are friends?

And remember They didnt post this here to stick a badge of honour on their breast.

They did post here because it would have been out anyways.

I dont know what Annah did, but it must be something devasting, for deserving such flaming.

Well I really think bush shouldnt have get another chance to make humans despaired and their lives destroyed, but thats Off Topic

[Annah]

1st of all, I have to mention that this was never meant to be found out. Of course, it was inevitable that this will happen one day.

 

its mainly funny because me depthblade grakrim and saint nuc could have all been member had we not laughed at him  

 Actually, that\'s not quite true. It\'s mainly because only you and DepthBlade were selected to join. You keep mixing \"Exsequor\" - the idea of the guild, with this. It\'s just a simple coincidence of names, nothing more.
 I contacted SaintNuclear and Grakrim a long time ago to offer them a place in a guild I wanted to create, though that didn\'t happen because I\'ve joined Dream of the Sarukai.

 Also, I guess it was my mistake calling you friends and offering a place, because all I got was more bickering. And my mistake that I\'ve chosen the most stubborn and ambitious man and his fanathical side.

 But I did those because I respect you, because I once believed in you.

 

These people will argue with whatever Annah does, even if he were to help every newbie he sees...somehow he\'s screwing everyone over.

 And sadly, what Kiern said it\'s true. Any little thing I want to do, is firstly argued like I am Hitler or something. I want to do something? The bad side always is analysed, in the same time the good one fading away ...
 Everything I\'ll do will just simply turn into something related to \"me\".

 You know what? I frankly don\'t care about these things anymore. Like me the way I am. Don\'t like me? God cares ...

 Seperot, I am tired how many times I wanted to \"make peace\" with you. Again, all I got was more bickering. Do you think I did this just to do it? I did this because I once cared for you mate. I could have easily ignore you in any way possible, and consider you \"just another crazy newbie\". But I didn\'t, and at least this should mean something for you.

 Anyway, going back to the Society. Many answers have already been asked. But I\'ll just clear some things.
 Merdarion, thank you for your words, and mostly I have to admit you are right.
 But I want you all to understand this is not a guild, it\'s a Society, an organization.

 

you do also know that annah originally had this idea for a guild then changed it...and interesting some people reactions to *oh that?* / most likeing annah will ride it like Black order and never update anthing...like he already has been  

 Actually, read more carefully. They are two seperated things, that don\'t have any relations with each other. And as for leading it, no I am not leading it, I think you can realize there is no specific leader.

 Auran, I wanted to contact you about this, but I am sorry, it seems Aelya has some dislikes with everything related to the Cabal \'eh. Though, I mentioned you. I guess I can do what you\'ve said, Errion will brief me up

 And also stop with words like \"they\". We just wanted to do something fun, because after all, all of these, it\'s for fun right?

 In the end I\'ll just say this still remains opens, and of course it will have more new members. But they will be kept secret, as well as what it has been done until now and what it will be done.

 ah by the way ...
 

I dont know what Annah did, but it must be something devasting, for deserving such flaming.

 To speak the truth Merdarion, god knows. Maybe they\'ll have to explain it a little. Maybe it\'s the fact I was roleplaying an evil character. What should\'ve I been doing? Help little old ladies to pass the street? Come on ...
 It all resumes to a matter of tastes. I am not liked by some. So, this means everyone should feel this way. Personally, this is a very stupid way of thinking.

---
 And Moogie, I guess you do realize I am still upset of what you\'ve done concerning me in \"real life\". That was unacceptable, and not easily to be forgotten.
 Yea I know, you were my little princess that sent me sms when I had my eyes operations, but still ...

[seperot]

annah  you total moron you know exactly why im attacking you stop acting like its some sort of shock i\'ve told most people here why i did it too so stop pretending you tryed to make peace.

as far as your guild (yes i am calling it that) you most likely do lead like you do with anhk. just tell people your just a person and lead that way. and you dident \"rp\" evil you sucked too much at it you where just annoying and now you\'ve had a acting facelift where you predend to be a happy person.

and ironically you dont mention how some people havent heard about this for 10 months  

[Moogie]

I\'m afraid I havn\'t done anything concerning you in \"real life\", Hannah. If you\'re referring to Ankh, I left quite quickly when I realised you were one of its leaders- I would rather count my losses than potentially ruin a very talented group of individuals\' dreams. But, I left them with a warning, and nothing more. I do eventually want to find out if it was needed.

Quite frankly, it doesn\'t matter to me who created this group. Just because I disagree with things you happen to be a part of, Annah, doesn\'t mean I\'m hounding you or beating you down for the hell of it.

My reasons for disliking the idea are in my last post. The last paragraph I suppose was somewhat too personal to you, and I apologise for that. I\'ll remove it if you wish. But the rest of what I said is my truthful opinion.

[Annah]

Seperot, stop with your personal insults. You could easily send me a PM
 And like I\'ve told you on IRC, someone normal will try to know me first, then make his/her own opinion, than just following after what you say.
 So you\'re kinda fighting for a lost cause.

 And Moogie, I won\'t enter in details, because this is still Planeshift. But what you have to understand is that a \"game life\" is different from the \"real life\". Think at them as only one, and it\'s becoming tragic. You had no right to do what you\'ve done at Ankh, and you know better

 

Annah\'s mind works in mysterious ways. Rather like a broken clock, it keeps ticking the same second over and over, as if time never moved on... the hand stuck in the past, forever.

 \'eh ... it\'s actually quite strange. Because you (and a few more friends, *points to Seperot) still use this phrase. I mean, come on  :rolleyes:
 It\'s just you that is stuck at the same phrase over and over.

 Ok, let\'s say I was wrong. Would you give a second change of knowing me? Of course not, that is what I was thinking too.
 And if this is happening, why not just try to ignore me? Why do you have to tell your opinions to anyone? Let them form their own.

 And I guess this became a little war between us, so I\'ll end my words here. No more replies to your words. Just stay on topic.

[Ghostslayer]

Originally posted by Annah
The society was created mainly to serve the PS community, and even if most of us are in ?Evil Aligned? guilds, we hope that we shall do good and brave deeds.

Its an interesting idea overall, but this seems a bit strange to me.  How do any of the character that are evil aligned stay IC while doing good and brave deeds for the community?  From an rp point of view, it should be against the very moral fibre of some of these characters, unless for some reason these deeds also benefit them in some way, or is some big deception to gain trust or something

Unless of course everything is OOC, and its just giving advice / going for GM positions or whatever, in which case good luck

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Moogie
Quite frankly, it doesn\'t matter to me who created this group. Just because I disagree with things you happen to be a part of, Annah, doesn\'t mean I\'m hounding you or beating you down for the hell of it.

My reasons for disliking the idea are in my last post.

Really?  Interesting.  

Do you care then, to read my last post and tell me how I am wrong about the part about the guilds?

Because, you know, Annah didn\'t come up with any of them...and I don\'t see posts like that in their threads (or others like them).