Last names

[rumblebelly]

i would like to see the ability to have multiple char\'s with the same last name. we allready have a password for our char why not set it so you can create  char.s with the same last name. i would love to start a clan anvilfist  

[Draklar]

I\'m not sure, but I think you can ask GM to set the last name to same one...

- Swords

[Seytra]

Yes, one can AFAIK. The fact that it\'s not player settable is to prevent undesired last name conflicts (i.e., nobody can pretend to be from your family / clan, neither by coincidence nor knowingly).

[leinir]

How about making it something that you can request? If the surname you choose already exists, you get a warning when you create the character, and the person who chose the name first gets one as well if you choose to continue using that name. You will then not be shown to have that surname until the person who originally chose it accepts your use of the name.
A little more work on initial implementation, but a lot of work taken off of the GMs\'shoulders

[Seytra]

Would be OK only if you had to also give a fallback surname, in case the other person does not accept your request. Maybe you even should show up with the fallback surname until the other person gives permission?

[miadon]

I tried to search this, couldn\'t find anything so forgive me if it has been suggested (its kind of an odd suggestion)

One thing that bugs me is you cant have the same name as another person. EG my name is Miadon Watec. But no one else can be called Miadon at all. This is very unrealistic. Its like saying there can only be one John in the world.

I would like to see more people with the same forname (and hence then be possible to have the same exact name, like John Smith).

What do others think??

[dragonfire999]

thing is, it would be impossible to use the Private Messaging system. Also, it has been discussed before, so look down

[miadon]

Also, it has been discussed before, so look down

blast, I tried so many search strings its a difficlut thing to searh for, meh :p

[defender43]

Well, what if PM\'s worked on first and last names?

That way, you could share a first name but not a last name, or a last name but not a first name.

*edited to remove spelling error*

[dragonfire999]

Here is what I see happening:

John Smith has logged in
John Smmith has logged in
John Smiith has logged in
John Ssmith has logged in
John Smitth has logged in
John Smithh has logged in
John Sssmith has logged in
John Ssmmith has logged in

Well this be annoying?

And say we bring in a friend, Mr. Johnathan Kaddiddlebunker.

Do you really feel like typing in:
 /tell Johnathan Kaddiddlebunker
then another guy comes in, Johnathan Kaddidlebunker.
Say you typo and send someone a PM then they could receive something they arent supposed to.

And im done

[defender43]

Hmmm... You have a point Taser, but what if two people want to R/P as brothers/sisters? Shouldn\'t they be allowed to have the same last name?

And, when your parents named you,  did they check first to make sure that that name had never, ever, ever been used? Two people should be allowed to share a first name.

Also, shouldn\'t \'no doppleganger names\' be in the naming rules? Like if your name is one letter away from someone else\'s, you can\'t name your character that?

[dragonfire999]

But it would be hard to enforce this, and also, if people want a last name together, a GM can change it for them. But the first name should still stay different. All names should be unique, for not only system purposes, but for convinience too.

[Karyuu]

The chat system works on first names. As Taser already stated, not only would it be a mess to have to type a person\'s entire name in a /tell, it would be quite ugly seeing a first and last name in regular chat as well. Only GMs are allowed to change last names for family purposes, and this is to prevent griefers from \"inserting\" themselves into someone\'s family and ruining RP.

Yes it would be more realistic to drop unique names entirely, but there is a point where realism in a game becomes a bother, and has to be left. This is just not going to happen - the dev team has spoken on the subject before.

[John80sk]

Well, I\'m no C++ Guru, but wouldn\'t it be fairly easy to make the /tell system run off of last names?  In all honesty I think you will eventually have to allow people to have the same first names, simply because as the RP grows you\'re going to end up with some very odd sounding words attempting to be names.

Here is what I see happening:

    Quote:
    John Smith has logged in
    John Smmith has logged in
    John Smiith has logged in
    John Ssmith has logged in
    John Smitth has logged in
    John Smithh has logged in
    John Sssmith has logged in
    John Ssmmith has logged in


Well this be annoying?

John Smith
Jon Smmith
Johhn Smiith
Johnn Smmith

People will be annoying regardless, I figure that\'s what the GM\'s are for

[zorbels]

Great idea but also a bad one. As you stated people can be annoying and heres an example and my point....

Player: \"But I made that name up first before he did.... I don\'t want to share it.\" *pouts*

Gm \"Sorry but this is aloud and you are both John and this makes the game more realistic. There is nothing I can do.\"

Player \"I don\'t want to share my name! This isn\'t far, people are getting us mixed up. I play a good character and he plays a bad one. Now everyone is mad at me.\"

Gm \"Then you must go speak with those people and let them know that it was not you.\"

Player \"Why should I have to, it isn\'t my fault! I came up with my name first. You Gm\'s never do anything about anything!\" *throws a tantrum*

Gm *Sighs*