The PlaneShift Times - Coming Soon!

[Incenjucar]

Um...

Kixie.

You rock and all...

But I can\'t let false information by.

Go to the Atomic Blue site.

Look under Mission.

Third bullet down.

\"To encourage the development of a large community of roleplayers that will recreate the beauty and complexity of a virtual medieval world.\"

Now, its not \"Earth\", obviously, nor is it \"European\", buuut...

[Xordan]

So what\'s the problem with a newspaper?? <.< What\'s this argument about again?

[Incenjucar]

The problem is that some of us have an issue with the idea of a bunch of knights, spell casters, and rogues sitting around at the tavern reading the sports section.

But the paper seems to be a wholly OOC thing, so its fine and dandy.

[Incenjucar]

Originally posted by Kaseijin

There\'s a difference between pamphlettes and newspapers, as even your article noted.  There will of course be ledgers and so forth.  Just not anything we would expect out of a \'newspaper\'.  At best, a \"High School Newsletter\".  And most likely, they\'ll be written by scribes, or, if small enough and numerous enough, someone with a stamp and ink.

Ultimately, people can do what they like, but I\'m going to take \"Extra! Extra!\" about the same as \"I vant to drink your blad!\" or \"Have you seen my spaceship?\"

Personal preference reigns until the devs make official statements.  S\'all good.

[Xordan]

Well it\'s sent via email... so of course it\'s OCC.  :rolleyes: So I don\'t see what the problem is... If you don\'t like a newspaper, then should we get rid of the planeshift site which tells us about the game? It\'s the same thing, outside information.

 *sigh*  :rolleyes:

[Draklar]

Xordan, my ingame logs say that people take it a bit further than ooc

[Socrates Demise]

The Mentality of the people of PlaneShift is much more in line with the beliefs and culture of the renaissance than medieval times.

In medieval times people were told and believed that wherever they were in the world was where they belonged and it was god\'s will for them to spend their life as either king or peasant and that there was no reason to try to change that.

The renaissance gave birth to the idea that one could move through the ranks both socially and politically.

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Socrates Demise
The renaissance gave birth to the idea that one could move through the ranks both socially and politically.

I\'m not arguing, but how does that make Planeshift have more in common with the renaissance?  I\'m missing the connection...

[Kaseijin]

i think what he meant is medieval times were an age where if you were born poor you stayed poor. You could never get rich through hard work. The planeshift world is world full of \'heroes\' which start poor and quickly get rich through work.
Or in other works in medieval times average person had no ambition or opprotunity to rise in social status. While planeshift everyone but npcs has that ambition and the opprotunity to do that.

Anyway Planeshift is fantasy setting based on medieval ages....not bound or limited to that age.

Planeshift has a very democratic social structure while medieval times were defined by hierarchical/feudal structure of society. So lay off the argument that somebody\'s idea is not medieval enough. Give another argument..

[Incenjucar]

That argument works on Laser Guns...

The fantasy tradition is based more on things like King Arthur and D&D.

D&D generally lacked printing presses, except in rare situations.

Again, up to the devs, but I don\'t think they\'ll want to make scribes mere history and take away that flavor.

And for bloody sake... Greece was a democracy, and it predated the middle ages.  Nor does anything say \"European\"

[Xordan]

Originally posted by Draklar
Xordan, my ingame logs say that people take it a bit further than ooc

Well then they should be /kickbanned

[Platyna]

I don\'t think so if Adyna would just be so flat and include in her gazette:
X got 200 of STR and now pwnz j00 411!

Especially that IC replacement is so easy:

X has been bleased by gods with the great strengh and now he can defeat
all his enemies without much effort.
If someone of you people would visit our guild forum - there is kinda hard
word being done on newly created section: \"Roleplaying and Storylines\".
Where everyone interested into making Planeshift Times IC can participiate
and help.
I am really not sure if technical issues of making and distributing the paper
are worth to argue about. For medieval monk copying something by hand
300 times (this is how many subscribers former EL times had) wasn\'t so
hard, so how about just imagine Adyna - the servant of Laanx writing the
paper for you...

Regards.

[Kaseijin]

Originally posted by Incenjucar

And for bloody sake... Greece was a democracy, and it predated the middle ages.  Nor does anything say \"European\"

but middle ages began with collapse of roman empire and democracy
educate yourself a little
here some info

interesting, upon a little research i discovered that term middle ages or medieval is more or less a term that refers to a part of a European history not the world history

thanks i learned a lot

[Easton]

yep.. i agree too..

adyna has a good idea (maybe not incredibly original) but its a good idea none the less.

adyna, im interested to see the newspaper when it comes out.

[Incenjucar]

Originally posted by Kaseijin
but middle ages began with collapse of roman empire and democracy
educate yourself a little
here some info

interesting, upon a little research i discovered that term middle ages or medieval is more or less a term that refers to a part of a European history not the world history

thanks i learned a lot

I\'m more educated than yourself in the matter if the term \'middle ages\' (Along with many other terms we tend to use) being only in regards to the European Middle Ages is new to you, so please, do try not to presume I was saying \"Clearly, we\'re in Greece in the middle ages!\"  Further, Rome wasn\'t a democracy.  Its main form of government was the \'republic\'.

(Actually, the terms \"middle ages\", \"medieval\", and \"Renascence\" are always under debate, since similar events would hit different locations at different times, varying by generations, and never hit elsewhere.)

The point was that the method was present, so its not a \'modern\' and thus iffy subject.  Nor is it a democracy so much as an oligarchy.  You don\'t get voted in as an octate, as I recall (The website is acting up, so I can\'t check on it at the moment:  if I\'m wrong, please call me on it.  I despise falsehood.)