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Foresteer

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« on: March 15, 2005, 12:42:15 pm »
Now while i think this wouldn\'t be on everybodies minds i think it really should be.

Read this => http://www.mufor.org/nmachine.html

though the most simple design and not the best article it still covers the main premise of Homopolar energy output. i intend to build and tinker on the concept once i can get a few more parts and a little spare money to throw about :)

So what do ya\'ll think of the whole concept of free energy?

I personaly think not only is it free (and as a american Free ALWAYS equates good :D ) but it seems practical and simple enough even a \"Backyard Engineer\" Could put most versions of them together in 1-7 days. Thoughts?

EDIT: found a little more info the topic :D  (one of em seems past my feild of comprehention.. less \"how to build\" and more \"why it works\" kinda math stuff)

http://www.amasci.com/freenrg/n-mach.html

http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/plasma/lectures/node70.html

http://www.tewari.org/
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2005, 01:24:53 pm »
it seems almost to good to be true. whats next, free air ? ho wait ...
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2005, 01:26:33 pm »
Well when you\'ve been told by big oil you need them for so long them come to find out you DONT have to pay them out the ass for something you dont need anyway it does seems to good to be true :P

EDIT: might i add we footed the bill and still do for iraq.. cheney\'s haliburton will get the oil from it.. and WE (who paid the money so that hiliburton would get the oil in the first place) then buy that oil BACK from haliburton.. thats us getting ripped off TWICE we pay for the thing to give to them which we pay to buy back.. it costs them 0% it costs us 200% and you say republicans facists dont know thier buisnesss :)
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2005, 01:31:34 pm »
If it really does work, sweet, but I am skeptical (as I am about everything really).

Free energy? Well, plants have been doing it for a billion years. My ideal world would consist of all houses having their roofs covered in solar panels and a wind turbine on top. It would cut the electrical necessity in the world by about 70%. Also, get rid of all the dam*ed SUVs!!!

Well, that\'s enough of my green party ranting.

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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2005, 01:36:59 pm »
Your Green Party Too?!?! sweet as :D

Well solar panels do prvide \"Free energy\" Now but they are like 10k for just one so O.o I like solar energy for water heating personaly.. you should read the government study on solar powered houses.. its really imformitive

Plus i built a almost homopolar device when i was 9 :P (it would spin for about 3 hours then die.. but it was built out of chemistry magnets and K\'nex for craps sake XD ) So they are simple and ive seen the concept work (plus i mean isn\'t that the hippy (my) dream?! freeloading with no bills raising your food and laughing at the oil tycoons who i\'m not letting freeload off me anymore :P )

EDIT: hydro-electric is the best \"free energy\" short of homopolar N devices in my opinion the water is always flow.. the wind does always blow and the sun doesnt always shine ya know :(
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2005, 01:47:47 pm »
I\'ve heard about point 0 energy before. I won\'t believe that this machine works until it\'s proven around the world by lots of different people. If it\'s true, then great. But I suspect that there\'s something wrong with the method of obtaining the results. Also, because it clashes with our currently accepted laws of physics I have doubts :)

Imo, our best shot at getting clean energy will be nuclear fusion power. Huge amounts of energy, no toxic waste products. Of course, we can\'t make it work yet :) Hydropower is clean, but very bad for the surrounding environment. It can ruin the ecosystem of the area. Solar power is 100% clean, but doesn\'t bring in enough energy. Wind power is clean, but can spoil the landscape and doesn\'t bring in much power. Nuclear Fission is just dangerous and produces as much waste as power. A nessessary evil though.
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2005, 02:09:03 pm »
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Plus i built a almost homopolar device when i was 9 :P (it would spin for about 3 hours then die.. but it was built out of chemistry magnets and K\'nex for craps sake XD ) So they are simple and ive seen the concept work (plus i mean isn\'t that the hippy (my) dream?! freeloading with no bills raising your food and laughing at the oil tycoons who i\'m not letting freeload off me anymore :P )



cool, maybe if you get your hands on thoese rare-earth magnets you could build yourself a fully-functioning one
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2005, 02:59:07 pm »
The reason I said you needed both the solar and the wind is that in many places, when the sun doesn\'t shine, it\'s windy and vice versa. Wouldn\'t work everywhere though, and even Hydro has it\'s faults- just look at the landscape/wildlife/cultural-historical damage with the Yangtze dam, or the big one on the Brazilian-Paraguayan border... Tidal generators are a good concept, and should be working on a large scale within ten years, hopefully the governments will invest money in those. Again though, they would destroy reefs and fish habitats... Antimatter from the Large Hadron Collider at Cern (built soon, so within 20 years?) works the same way as Uranium (could provide great power, but also weapons of mass destruction)...

What can you do? Human progress and natural preservation are a precarious balance...

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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2005, 04:39:59 pm »
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I\'ve heard about point 0 energy before.
That\'s \"zero point energy\" actually, not \"point zero energy.\" Referrs to the amount of energy in the vacuum of \"empty\" space. It has been tapped in minute amounts (see Casimir effect), but not enough to be useful.
Personally I\'ll have doubts about \"free energy\" being exploited until it\'s confirmed by more trustworthy sources, or until I can verify it myself (either logically or experimentally).

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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2005, 04:48:41 pm »
This is really cool, I am thinking of building one also.

One question though, why does everyone here seem to be so anti-bush? Haliburton isn\'t even over in iraq, and (really stupic uniformed thing.), so it doesn\'t matter. Plus my family pays $2.30 U.S. a gallon anyways... and if China goes the way economists are thinking it will go, we could have either $30 a barrel oil prices, or $70 8o !!
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2005, 08:49:05 pm »
Well whats so silly about this all is that every free energy device has blueprints you can get for free or in book form to just build O.o so i mean if its a scam or didn\'t work wouldn\'t the people pushing this try to SELL us one not just give us the prints to build one at zero profit to them and low cost to us?

Like i said I\'LL be building one just as soon as i can so perhaps i\'ll have video or something at some point :) well i have to go for now.. once i get on for my nighttime run i\'ll post more info ;) (i get on in the middle of the day just to check on some things)
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2005, 10:19:42 pm »
FYI: Cheney\'s Haliburton money was owed to him a long before he became VP.

Anywho, I don\'t trust it.  Why?  Because if it worked it would be everywhere already!
Kinda obvious.  Somebody would sell it to you and get rich.
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2005, 10:49:07 pm »
first how much does it cost to make and second there has to be a factor he hasn\'t noticed yet. Its almost too simple.

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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2005, 11:58:12 pm »
Two words... OIL LOBBY this device has copyrights in india for definant and in japan too i believe.  If word of this got out here then BOOM republicans and thier oil funding is screwed.. and nazis dont take well to not being the elite rich class :/

Anyway yes its amazingly simple.. i mean i built one as a child without even having access to the \"intarweb\" or any previous knowledge of \"science\" or \"phyics\" i just though \"Magnets repulse right? what happened if both the out face of a wheel and the rim around it where the same pole?\" i tried it and it somewhat worked..

Plus i mean why not build one and see? it cant cost that much maybe 50-100$ at the most i mean if you can power your house for a one time cost of 500$ (the average monthly bill) then hells yeah i would build one! I say 500$ because a LARGE one would take more money to build.

I realise \"Physics\" says this isn\'t possible.. but wherent physics just 10 years ago BLATENTLY WRONG compared to todays \"physics\" and even 10 years before that they where wrong compared to the theorys of then... Tomorrows \"Physics\" Will call todays phyicists stupid for having completely wrong ideas.. I personaly think this whole \"Physics\" thing is a crock use to say anything that challenges the \"norm\" and what the higher ups dont want well know as \"impossible\"

At the cut rate physics is forever changing so if you are of the mind \"If physics cant right now explain it then it cant exist\" then you are quite frankly stupid (or limited mental funtion to be PC) and are going to stay 20 years behind science. There still are PROVEN things that happen every day that \"phsyics\" cant explain STILL so if you put you entire belief in phyics i shall do the monty python frenchmen taunts at you for being so closed minded :P \"Yor mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries!! now leave and do not make me taunt you a second time!!\"

Magnetic force (which the whole homopolar device is based on) is still a \"physics\" anomoly nobody know how it works.. yet everybody does.. Children can grasp ot.. yet the high and mighty scientific community is still baffled by it.. most of mainstream science will stay baffled because quite frankly all of the \"scientists\" make things harder then they have to be i dont know why... maybe if they make everything sound complex then they seem smarter or something (i haven\'t met a mainstream scientist who wasn\'t full of him/herself when in fact i find them to be the most ignorant and primitive of \'em all)

Anyway try reading the links on the main post... it basicaly lays it all out.. once you read it all try doing a metacrawler search on it (you will never learn anything without a little personaly effort.. sorry XD ) there are many ways of free energy.. homopolar is only one of many
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2005, 12:39:38 am »
WTF!!! Everything should be equipped with those things!
Damn government will probably ban them until we run out of gas in about 45 years though :evil:  Stupid government....
And yes its estimated that the world will run out of oil in about 45 years if we keep using it at this rate. I personally cant wait :)  Ill have a whole screw oil party and everything readyto go.
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