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« Reply #165 on: October 01, 2005, 04:08:08 am »
Today, me, Ganinos and a few select characters caused a fuss in the tavern.

The topic of Bodacher came up, and I said that he was rude to me, even though I knew that to other people like Eleloy and most new people he was actually a nice guy.

Ganinos started hounding me, saying \"where\'s the proof?\" over and over again.  When I said I had logs, he just insulted me.


Listen, maybe you guys are sensitive about Bodacher and about what people think of your guild.  But is it so hard to believe that at least some of you have done bad things in-game?  Is it so hard to let people have differences of opinion without making things explode into flame-fests?  Why resort to harrassment and mobbing if you think you\'re right?

It\'s bad for the community.  Yeah, sure, maybe it was just \"Shal\" who was being mobbed, but Ganinos and his friends ruined the RP experience for everyone else who was in the tavern at the time.  It was the most crowded I had seen it in a long time, and there was actual RP going on.  We should be trying to encourage that kind of thing, not ruin it for others!

« Last Edit: October 01, 2005, 05:55:10 am by zanzibar »
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« Reply #166 on: October 01, 2005, 04:19:14 am »
Shal, to start off I am not part of the dragon council nor have I ever been. Moreover I am nobodys alt; I have been around since late in MB and if you don\'t belive me I can and will show you my ring of the past to prove it.

And finaly comes the rebutal to your post; a coup de gras so to speak

[QOUTE]
(20:48:40) Shalmaneser turns his smile into a yawn. \"I don\'t even think he\'s gone. More likely, he\'s trying to get sympathy for his guild in a time when they are in ill-respect.\"
(20:48:48) Pogs squints, looks left and right, then grabs another one
(20:48:49) Shalmaneser says: Ganinos, you\'ve never been interested in proof.
(20:48:51) Eleloy takes a drink and start slowly sipping the drink down
(20:48:57) Pogs says: Cheerio
(20:49:03) Caen grabs a mugs swiftly, studying it with intense concentration.
(20:49:14) Shalmaneser says: You can\'t even see what\'s in front of you.
(20:49:16) Kaile smiles
(20:49:18) Rift says: hey wtf is goin on
(20:49:22) Blaze perks his ears a bit, then grabs another two mugs from under the bar and proceeds to fill them
(20:49:22) Kaile says: Greedy pog?
(20:49:23) Shalmaneser says: Whether it\'s to do with Bodacher, me, or the dark lady.
(20:49:27) Hatchnet says: Barkeep a wine please
(20:49:45) Blaze gives a quick nod \"Aye, sure thing.\"
(20:49:52) Ganinos says: No, it is you who are not interested in proof. You accuse without proof. This is something I would never do.
(20:50:03) Pogs says: Not greedy. I prefer the term \"thirsty\"
(20:50:06) Shalmaneser says: I don\'t need proof of things I already know are true.
(20:50:13) Caen says: (:o ... *Smacks Rift* That\'s supposed to be my general all purpose name! You bum! xD)
(20:50:15) Eleloy says: Ganinos speaks truth
(20:50:22) Alvyn leans back against the bar, enjoying the show
(20:50:24) Shalmaneser says: Ganinos speaks half truths. And half the truth is a lie.
(20:50:25) Blaze climbs up onto the bar counter, feels around up top for a moment, then pulls down a wine glass
(20:50:33) Blaze says: What sort of wine are you lookin\' for, mate?
(20:50:40) Ganinos says: You need proof to accuse someone of something or you are just spreeding your own brand of lies.
(20:50:48) Pogs says: [brb]
(20:50:52) Eleloy says: i would know you are bad.. just before you were killstealing plusthe first time i talked to you you accused me..
(20:50:52) Hatchnet says: A fine green If you have it
(20:51:14) Caen looks down at the mug and takes a huge swig of it.
(20:51:28) Shalmaneser says: [[[[ I have chat logs of Bodacher insulting me and freaking out just for saying Hi. He kill stole from me every so often as revenge for things I was saying about the guild. If you really need the proof, I can spend the time to dig through the logs, but you won\'t like what I get, and I won\'t like looking for it.]]]]]
(20:51:33) Kaile offers gan a mug full of some sort of ale
(20:51:33) Blaze mumbles something as he crouches down and begins to search under the bar \"Green...? Not too sure...\"
(20:51:49) Alvyn says: Might there be any nuts back there, or something else to nibble on?
(20:52:09) Kaile says: I have some
(20:52:11) Kaile says: Maybe fish?
(20:52:13) Shalmaneser says: It doesn\'t matter though.
(20:52:17) Shalmaneser says: Soon, your pitiful organization will be a thing of the past.
(20:52:27) Alvyn says: Why thank you
(20:52:29) Caen bounds happily into the middle of the room, mostly ignoring everyone.
(20:52:40) Shalmaneser says: You outlived your usefullness. Now, you\'ve outlived your name.
(20:52:42) Blaze produces a small dark bottle from under the bar, covered in a thin layer of dust \"Hmmm...Yes, yes...Good year, this one is...\"
(20:53:07) Ganinos says: Shal, you have accused many, without providing any proof of anything.
(20:53:19) Shalmaneser says: That bar never seems to run out of interesting bottles! Some magiks must be at play.
(20:53:25) Shalmaneser says: Ganinos, no.
(20:53:29) Shalmaneser says: I accuse very few people.
(20:53:34) Ganinos says: You talk but your words have nothing to back them up.
(20:53:42) Shalmaneser says: And I accuse them of very specific things.
(20:53:45) Eleloy says: i read their guild belief\'s... if you have accused and insulted their guild, they are allowed revenge
(20:53:49) Shalmaneser says: Actually, I usually have many things to back them up.
(20:53:52) Shalmaneser sighs.
(20:53:53) Caen suddenly smack Shalmanese across the face with her paw. She looks a bit annoyed at him. \"Esa ene lise! Lian!\"
(20:53:53) Hatchnet says: Funny Shalmonezer thats not what it looks like from here
(20:54:08) Shalmaneser says: I\'ve accused and insulted them to the tenth degree, and it\'s only half of what they deserve.
(20:54:09) Blaze presses a claw into the cork and slowly pulls it out of the neck, then picks up the wine glass and begins to fill it with the rich liquid
(20:54:19) Shalmaneser says: Hatchnet, be silent. I know you.
(20:54:26) Caen stalks off with what looks like bruised pride.
(20:54:29) Shalmaneser walks over to grab a drink.
(20:54:49) Shalmaneser says: Blaze. Grab a few pints of stout while you\'re back there.
(20:54:57) Hatchnet says: Shalmanezer you know no one and nothing
(20:55:04) Ganinos says: Your hate is evident in your words. But, that is all you say is words.
(20:55:07) Eleloy says: Blaze. Another glass of ale please>
(20:55:11) Blaze slides the wine glass along with the bottle over the counter to Hatchnet \"\'Ere yeh go.\"
(20:55:12) Shalmaneser says: Hatchnet, you\'re bitter because a GM warned you about cheating.
(20:55:29) Blaze says: Alright, two ales comin\' up.
(20:55:31) Shalmaneser says: Ganinos, Bodacher is gone. What\'s the point anymore?
(20:55:34) Shalmaneser says: I know what I saw was true.
(20:55:36) Hatchnet says: Thank you my good man
(20:55:41) Shalmaneser says: Other people, who saw similar things, will know what I know.\\
(20:55:57) Hatchnet says: Where did you get that bit of information Shal I have never been warned
(20:56:00) Shalmaneser says: Besides, I don\'t give a rat\'s tail about proving anything to YOU, oh Ganinos of Dragon Council.
(20:56:00) Pogs says: [back]
(20:56:06) Shalmaneser says: You are nothing. You have no power. And you have no insight.
(20:56:12) Eleloy says: I stand by my point that as far as I knew Bodacher he was a good person
(20:56:19) Shalmaneser says: Hatchnet, you\'re bitter, so you insult me as would a child.
(20:56:24) Shalmaneser says: Eleloy, I believe you.
(20:56:27) Pogs sits down at a table in the corner and watches the crowd
(20:56:27) Blaze begins to fill up two new mugs, mumbling something darkly. He turns around and places them on the counter.
(20:56:36) Shalmaneser says: He showed that face to many people.
(20:56:40) Ganinos says: You try to spread words, & say they are true at the same time. But, you never provide any evidence of such. This means your words are hollow as you are.
(20:56:45) Hatchnet says: Whos insulting
(20:56:45) Alvyn drains his mug. \"Blaze, can I trouble you for another?\"
(20:56:49) Shalmaneser says: Ganinos,
(20:56:52) Shalmaneser says: I do provide proof.
(20:56:56) Hatchnet says: Shal you are the only one throwing mud in here
(20:56:58) Shalmaneser says: When I had to get GM involvement, I provided proof.
(20:57:08) Shalmaneser says: Now, other people see the same things, and they know what\'s true and what is not.
(20:57:18) Blaze picks up the mug and turns back to the barrel, filling it once more and handing it back to Alvyn
(20:57:18) Eleloy almost forgets the ale and swiftly drinks it up.
(20:57:22) Shalmaneser says: Hatchnet, read up the log and you\'ll see the illusion in your own words.
(20:57:26) Caen gingerly whams the mug down on the bartop. \"Tensu!!!\" she cries excitedly.
(20:57:29) Shalmaneser says: This is so childish.
(20:57:34) Shalmaneser says: Ganinos, you don\'t want proof.
(20:57:38) Shalmaneser says: Because I\'ve offered it to you,
(20:57:39) Hatchnet says: As I said your are the only one throwing mud in here
(20:57:41) Shalmaneser says: and you refused.
(20:57:41) Kaile giggles at caen
(20:57:42) Ganinos says: Words, Shal all words, you have provided no proof of anything to anyone.
(20:57:47) Shalmaneser says: I just don\'t care anymore.
(20:57:48) Shalmaneser says: Right.
(20:57:54) Shalmaneser says: And until you look at the proof, it wil never exist.
(20:57:55) Shalmaneser says: Right?
(20:57:58) Blaze says: Erf...? I take it you\'d like a drink, then?
(20:57:58) Shalmaneser says: That\'s what I thought.
(20:58:00) Pogs wonders what this is all about
(20:58:03) Eleloy says: Video tape proof next time..
(20:58:04) Hatchnet says: I have been reading the entire time I\'ve been in here
(20:58:24) Caen holds out the mug and repeates herself, smiling. \"Tensu.\"
(20:58:54) Hatchnet says: (That one has been trouble since he was a wee newb)
[/QUOTE]

As you can see I only came in toward the tail of the conversation however in that little bit captured in my log you were the sole procrastinator.

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« Reply #167 on: October 01, 2005, 05:50:04 am »
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As you can see I only came in toward the tail of the conversation however in that little bit captured in my log you were the sole procrastinator.




Yes, you came in at the end of it all.  There was a lot happening before you supposedly came in, and even more leading up to it.

No, I was not the only one in the wrong.  If you\'re going to play the blame game, then you have to take personal responsibility as well, and Ganinos was also being obstinate and offensive.

I also want to compare your log to mine, because something seems weird about it.  Maybe it\'s just the missing tells?

Listen, instead of posting bits of chat logs and parts of conversations -- can\'t you just respond intelligently to what I said?  Can\'t we agree that flame-fests should stay out of the tavern, and out of the public chat -- period?

There just isn\'t any point to this bickering anymore.  No one is willing to move on anything.  All we can do is agree to disagree at this stage, but it seems like I\'m the only one who\'s willing to do even that.  I don\'t care if it\'s with you, Ganinos, or anyone else.  When it starts to interfere with OTHER players in the community, then it has to stop NOW.

I can accept that we don\'t get along.  When Ganinos came in and starting insulting me and hounding me for having a bad thing to say about Bodacher, then yes I\'m going to say he was trying to start something.  But posting the end of a long conversation, when a lot was said before that and even more was said after?  Please.  Just what are you trying to prove, and how do you think that will help anything?
« Last Edit: October 01, 2005, 07:17:50 am by zanzibar »
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« Reply #168 on: October 01, 2005, 05:52:13 am »
If you wish to bicker amongst yourselves, take it to pms.  Further arguing will be deleted.

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« Reply #169 on: October 01, 2005, 12:33:38 pm »
Me and shal were talking about this a bit before and after this event.. it started with Shal saying something about a DC member and then i backed the DC member up then we had a talk and then ganinos came in and etc.
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« Reply #170 on: October 01, 2005, 03:09:07 pm »
Thnxs Darkw00t,

I did not like to respond in here anymore.
It\'s a never ending fight between some
of the Dragon Council and Shalmaneser.

I ask you to stop picking on eachother and play
PS more.

What has happenened in the past, let it be
the past.

For me PS is fun, while playing.
Lets keep it this way.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2005, 03:09:27 pm by Tarel »
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« Reply #171 on: October 01, 2005, 07:46:14 pm »
Guys, any further discussion of the matter should be taken to PMs or private guild forums.

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« Reply #172 on: October 01, 2005, 08:41:45 pm »
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Guys, any further discussion of the matter should be taken to PMs or private guild forums.


Huh? Aendars gotten soft!  8o
Deleat the thread and every post any of them have ever made in the forum! :D
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« Reply #173 on: October 08, 2005, 04:41:11 pm »
Bodacher is back in DC
Meriner will return soon back in DC.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2005, 06:33:01 pm by Tarel »
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« Reply #174 on: October 28, 2005, 12:19:54 am »
With great sadness with heard that aucices has stopped playing PS for the moment :(
I hope he will return back.
Greetings,

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« Reply #175 on: October 28, 2005, 03:02:08 am »
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With great sadness with heard that aucices has stopped playing PS for the moment :(
I hope he will return back.

I\'m afraid to say I\'m in a similar boat, RL\'s not doing me any favors at the moment, and I simply don\'t have the time to go online. I will come in as and when I get the chance however.
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« Reply #176 on: October 28, 2005, 11:41:44 am »
Good luck with both your RL issues. May we see you shortly.
Disclaimer: This is my opinion and I can be reasoned with. I'm probably right, though.

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« Reply #177 on: November 04, 2005, 04:22:39 pm »
On a glad note (I hope LOL)


I\'m back in PS. Probably not as much yet as before but back nonetheless :D

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« Reply #178 on: November 04, 2005, 11:18:03 pm »
Thats good to here Meriner.  If you ever have time (and I am on :P) come by \'he Broken Door Tavern in Akkaio.  I should be there friend.

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« Reply #179 on: November 05, 2005, 12:51:32 am »
Will be sure to keep a lookout for you :)