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« Reply #255 on: August 03, 2005, 02:08:22 pm »
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so I learnt there will still be a guild wipe with guildcreation fees after...
is it true? if yes: why? if because of the number of the guildcreations: why does it annoy you?


PS will always be free in ALL respects. That includes guild creation.

Greetings,


LOL to that :D

I\'m sure jorrit\'s just jokeing around, he made it sound as if he thought you were talking about real money...smart one jorrit  ;)

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« Reply #256 on: August 03, 2005, 02:49:16 pm »
@xordan : never tried, never had time, I am satisfied by debian for now and like the debian community !

be careful... your cpu could find the atmosphere too hot if you try to make money with ps... :rolleyes:  :))  :rolleyes:

but you can answer to the questions I asked too...

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« Reply #257 on: August 03, 2005, 05:24:11 pm »
Xordan said in a previous thread that guild creation fee will cost 20000 multiplied by a number 5 through 10. I dunno if he was kidding...but thats a hell of a lot of trias...

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« Reply #258 on: August 03, 2005, 05:30:24 pm »
game master guild better get hella discount on that, otherwise we will have to be freelance adminers or somthing  :/
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« Reply #259 on: August 03, 2005, 05:34:29 pm »
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game master guild better get hella discount on that, otherwise we will have to be freelance adminers or somthing  :/



Nah, it\'s 50 through to 100 times for game masters ;) :P

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Xordan said in a previous thread that guild creation fee will cost 20000 multiplied by a number 5 through 10. I dunno if he was kidding...but thats a hell of a lot of trias...


It\'s only a lot for one person. And that\'s a guess. I haven\'t decided what fees or other requirements will be. :) And they won\'t be introduced for a few months I guess.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2005, 05:35:14 pm by Xordan »

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« Reply #260 on: August 03, 2005, 05:46:26 pm »
doooeeeet nooooow XD

Game masters dont care what the price is to make the game master guild, we\'ll just magically make some circles ;)

of course we wont be doing the same for our IC guilds, thats just pathetic cheating

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« Reply #261 on: August 03, 2005, 06:26:39 pm »
if their is a guild creation fee, well start seeing guilds that charge money to enter. i really don\'t like that idea

example ( you are really good, whould you like to join -------?
\"yay, i\'d love to.\" that\'ll be 5 circles)lol, kinda stupid don\'t you think?

EDIT: i\'ve also seen some people talking about houses. maybe the fee gives the guild a house, and maybe is payable over time

example: the guild must pay 1000 a week for 4 months or their house gets foreclosed and resold
« Last Edit: August 03, 2005, 06:43:31 pm by pigottsm »

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« Reply #262 on: August 03, 2005, 07:09:14 pm »
Could lead to another ingame job...repo man.   :P
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« Reply #263 on: August 03, 2005, 07:12:24 pm »
if a guild charges money for membership, then i would guess that that specific guild would not last too long..

maybe a suggested donation now and then, but anything completely required seems.. i don\'t know the word.. useless, stupid, lame, worthless, idiotic- take your pick...

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« Reply #264 on: August 03, 2005, 07:16:14 pm »
my point exactly easton, although i whould not mind helpign pay for my guild\'s house, i whould nto want them to require it

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« Reply #265 on: August 03, 2005, 07:17:54 pm »
indeed.. a guild is something that all members should feel apart of, and therefore, wish to help. because they should know that if they help the guild, they are indirectly helping themselves and all other people associated with that guild..

some guilds have a problem with this..

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« Reply #266 on: August 03, 2005, 07:28:30 pm »
I never liked the idea of mandatory Guild dues. In some games, guilds are charged for things like housing, furniture,etc., and I never minded pitching in voluntarily for things like that. Hey that\'s a fun way to compete with your Guild mates in fact! Braggin rights and all that. But mandatory fee guilds never appealed to me. Personal choice tho.
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« Reply #267 on: August 03, 2005, 07:55:44 pm »
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so I learnt there will still be a guild wipe with guildcreation fees after...
is it true? if yes: why? if because of the number of the guildcreations: why does it annoy you?

It is obaviously annoying for several reasons:
1) Thge large number of guilds created by completely uninformed people. These are most often completely OOC and don\'t even fit the setting.

2) The large number of guilds that die within a few days. These mostly are like the above, but also can be founded by people who got informed on the game but not on what it takes (and means) to have a guild. The fee would serve a sintroductionary example. If they manage to get the money, this means that they at least have some dedication.

3) It\'s not realistic that almost everyone is in a guild AFAIK. Also, the high number of guilds is not really realistic.

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And do you think it\'s realistic to pay a big fee for the creation of a guild?

Yes. You don\'t just found some big organization IRL, too. It does take money, administrative work (possibly inclusing fees), a base of operation, etc.. This all costs money and work, something that isn\'t reflected in the simply way to create a guild in PS.

So the way it IMO should go is that a would-be guild forms informally due to whatever reasons, and eventually decide to pony up the necessary fee. Once they officially founded the guild by paing the fee, they can obviously set the policy for joining. Some may require a mandatory fee, some ask for something based on the chars possessions, some may ask for donations, some not at all or non-monetary things.
When someone wants to join a guild, they usually should have good reasons to do so, and these would usually provide sufficient incentive to help out. If not, the potential member would not really be of benefit to the guild, anyway.

I, too, don\'t like recurring fees, but it would be at the guilds discretion IMO.

As for how many wipes there will be... several, I\'d say, but they probably will be years apart AFAICS.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2005, 07:57:20 pm by Seytra »

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« Reply #268 on: August 03, 2005, 08:09:09 pm »
yes, but their is no central government in planeshift to pay the fees to??????????? where do they go, the church?

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« Reply #269 on: August 03, 2005, 08:13:57 pm »
Firstly: Get yourself informed. There is  government. :tdown:
Secondly: one question mark would have sufficed quite nicely.
Thirdly, even without a government, you woulkd obviously still have to pay for other people\'s services and for items and ground.