Janners Way

[Pestilence]

Good thing we never \"proclaimed\" that then

[r.guppy]

Originally posted by Pestilence
Good thing we never \"proclaimed\" that then

To ensure the well-being of all in Yliakum by learning about and preventing any conflicts from destroying the peace that we all hold dear.

Sounds to me you did.

[Pestilence]

preventing any conflicts from destroying the peace

all problems no mater what the source

It clearly says prevent conflicts from destroying the peace not prevent all conflicts. And for something to destroy the peace it seems to me it would be a bit more serious then the avarage problem.

Again the facts are there.

[r.guppy]

OK blunt talk who are you to interfere in matters you were not elected, players were not consulted, so you have no right , blunt again mind your own unless asked.

[Pestilence]

Again as said Xillix ASKED US.

And why would we mind our \"own business\"? Your definately not doing it yourself.

Anyhow if it\'s a big enough problem to destroy the peace you can hardly say it\'s not someones business if he lives there.

and no players are consulted? We represent six guilds. Why wouldn\'t we have the right to tell people our opinions? If that were the case you have no right at all. Still this whole thread is loaded with your opinions.

[r.guppy]

Originally posted by Pestilence
Again as said Xillix ASKED US.

And why would we mind our \"own business\"? Your definately not doing it yourself.

Anyhow if it\'s a big enough problem to destroy the peace you can hardly say it\'s not someones business if he lives there.

and no players are consulted? We represent six guilds. Why wouldn\'t we have the right to tell people our opinions? If that were the case you have no right at all. Still this whole thread is loaded with your opinions.

 I was told she was summoned. and yes it is my opinion, and its my guild thread to.
 
 O sorry six guilds wow thats more than let me see how many guilds in this guild section, about 20 in a fast count, opps sorry my math\'s are wrong, you represent less than a third, so i say to you, get of your soap box rethink and try again.

 O and the mass of non guild players too probably outnumber you too.

 I state what i think you are doing what you wont without thinking or caring what others think or you would have been open about it.

[Pestilence]

It\'s more then you consulted Janner thats the point. And you don\'t have the right to tell anyone he isn\'t allowed to tell their opinion.

We arent forcing anyone to do anything. It was our opinion that Xillix was basicly asking us to overthrow the sitting goverment and our characters wanted no part in it.

It is our right to decide this and to fight for what we feel is right.

For someone who says we are the powertrippers you seem to be very good at telling what we can and can\'t do.

And following your rants logic I am pretty sure your rant isn\'t supported by the majority of the community and that you didn\'t consult enough players about it so please do what you are telling us to do.

[r.guppy]

I don\'t need to consult on my opinion, its mine and others will give theirs to if you ask them, o sorry you wont you are doing it in secret.

 Or were till i got wind of it smiles.

[Pestilence]

Aahhh so we have to consult the majority of the community before doing anything (ofcourse meaning you) but you can say and do whatever you want without consulting anyone

hmm yeah thats why we are having this discusion becuase we were so ultra secretive about opposing Xillix that everyone knows it.

Again (yeah I know it\'s been told so often you are wondering if he is reading the same posts) Xillix asked our support and we did give her our opinion as in that we would have no part in overthrowing the goverment.

If thats the best you can do I think I don\'t need to say more.

[r.guppy]

Originally posted by Pestilence
Aahhh so we have to consult the majority of the community before doing anything (ofcourse meaning you) but you can say and do whatever you want without consulting anyone

hmm yeah thats why we are having this discusion becuase we were so ultra secretive about opposing Xillix that everyone knows it.

Again (yeah I know it\'s been told so often you are wondering if he is reading the same posts) Xillix asked our support and we did give her our opinion as in that we would have no part in overthrowing the goverment.

If thats the best you can do I think I don\'t need to say more.

What a self proclaimed bully you must be and power mad to have the check to set up a council to run and demand things be done how you wont them to be done.

 I stait my objections to your power trip and you try to twist it how lame. Not to mention your ego must be a bit bruised with this bashing how dare i oppose you, i speck for myself and no one else, you on the other hand speck for all, or so you would have us believe.

[Karyuu]

Erm. Janner, take this as a little nudge from someone who doesn\'t follow \"guild politics\" at all - I think you\'re misinterpreting things. Badly. It may be wise to calm down and look things over again, as at the moment you are making yourself look ... not so good.

[Pestilence]

*laughs*

I\'m twisting it around? Hardly. I never said or hinted that we spoke for the majority I even already mentioned that we didn\'t.

However YOU were the one that said we should have consulted before forming the council. Why? Did you consult most of the community when you started Janners Way? I never heard of it before you started it so that must be no \"ofcourse\"

We aren\'t a bully. We aren\'t purposefully insulting people unlike you and we aren\'t telling people what they can or can not do unlike you. We aren\'t demaning things at all unlike you.

We do have an opinion about things and we shall tell our opinion when asked as we were.

You can opose us for sure but insult us and don\'t expect us to be your friends. And keep to the facts becuase an opinion is one thing, saying we do things or did things without it having happened and no evidence is simple slander.

[r.guppy]

Library /
History

In the third season, two citizens of honorable character began speaking of the dangers to the realm. They spoke for months to each other, determined to find a way to prevent the decline of their beloved world. Eventually they decided on a plan to foster the growth and development of the realm by it\'s citizens and after much discussion, decided to found a \"guild of guilds\", thus the Sworn Council of Yliakum (SCoY) was born.
Guilds of the highest caliber were carefully chosen to attend the first meeting and only the guild leader and one other were invited to attend. There was a rocky start with the Great Wipe and other delays but the first meeting was eventually held and was by all accounts a great success.

 two citizens of honorable character

Care to name them

They spoke for months to each other, determined to find a way to prevent the decline of their beloved world.

What decline, as far as i know it has been growing.

 Guilds of the highest caliber were carefully chosen

Care to name them.

Mission Statement

The Sworn Council of Yliakum Charter
Why?
To ensure the well-being of all in Yliakum by learning about and preventing any conflicts from destroying the peace that we all hold dear.

 To ensure the well-being of all preventing any conflicts

 To me sounds like you wont to control all that is going on.

 

Who?
All guilds and/or citizens who wish to promote the general well-being in Yliakum may participate.

 So if someone wonts there say they can.

 

On occasion, an invited guest may be in attendance to give testimony at an assembly. He or she will then have to adhere to the guest rules* (see below).

 This seams to me to contradict.

Guest Rules
As mentioned above, On occasion, an invited guest may be in attendance to give testimony at an assembly. Since this guest is not a member of the council, he or she will be responsible for adhering to the following rules:
1) You will take an oath before speaking to the council. This oath is to be repeated after you have spoken.
2) You will not speak until asked to do so. If asked to stop speaking by any member of the council you will do so.
3) You will not disrespect any member of the council, nor anyone else present at an assembly.
4) If presented with an invitation to an assembly, you will be in attendance. If you cannot be in attendance that day, you will inform a member of the council of your situation.
5) All issues and contents of the assembly will remain secret. No one is to know any details of the assembly, including your attendance, unless the expressed consent of the entire council.

 
So you can have your say but after keep your mouth shut.

 I am not telling you or anyone to do it my way, I am pointing out that you have laid claim to the town council building and that implies you are the town council, and as I understand it a town council is elected by the people of the town, you were not.

 From your own history this all came about by two citizens of honorable character.

The citizens of this town decide who governs them not two citizens of honorable character.

 As for my rood conduct i apologies.

[Pestilence]

two citizens of honorable character

Care to name them

They spoke for months to each other, determined to find a way to prevent the decline of their beloved world.

What decline, as far as i know it has been growing.

Guilds of the highest caliber were carefully chosen

Care to name them.

I believe that is refering to Easton and Sensotaka.

The list of our members isn\'t a secret. beside them several guilds that might have interest have been asked to have a look at the charter.

To ensure the well-being of all preventing any conflicts

To me sounds like you wont to control all that is going on.

ohh come on I already adressed this and thats one of the worst cases I have seen in a long while of misquoting something delibaretly out of context

FROM DESTROYING THE PEACE. Is what it says. This means when there is a serious problem becuase a simple disagreement doesn\'t threaten the peace. It also doesn\'t mean we are nececarily are going to prevent the conflict just make sure innocents aren\'t affected by it.

So if someone wonts there say they can.

Everyone who agrees to the charter can join as I already mentioned and others before me.

So you can have your say but after keep your mouth shut.

I am not telling you or anyone to do it my way, I am pointing out that you have laid claim to the town council building and that implies you are the town council, and as I understand it a town council is elected by the people of the town, you were not.

From your own history this all came about by two citizens of honorable character.

The citizens of this town decide who governs them not two citizens of honorable character.

As for my rood conduct i apologies.

laid claim to the town council building???

I have said half a dozen times already we have no intend of being a goverment. Claiming that we do again and again doesn\'t make this more true.

As for your apologies not very convincing if in the same post you tell us to shut our mouths. Also saying you are not telling us what we have to do after saying to shut our mouths makes that you have already disproven your own words in the same post.

[r.guppy]

Originally posted by Pestilence
The laanx temple was \"the octarchs headquarters\" not the other way around. It was also \"the octarch\" that asked our support and then we had to make an opinion and we didn\'t decide to do this before this.

We are not a goverment and don\'t want to be one, but even if we would what would be wrong with that if \"the octarch\"apparently did nothing wrong?

 The octarch headquarters, to me is same as council buildings. or so i believe.

 

So you can have your say but after keep your mouth shut.

 Now who is misquoting. this was a reference to your guest rules

 

5) All issues and contents of the assembly will remain secret. No one is to know any details of the assembly, including your attendance, unless the expressed consent of the entire council.

Finaly after asking a few times you say who the two were. Easton and Sensotaka.

 

To ensure the well-being of all in Yliakum by learning about and preventing any conflicts from destroying the peace that we all hold dear.

 And i will keep bringing it up you words stats ALL. ALL means ALL.

Guilds of the highest caliber were carefully chosen

Still don\'t know how these were.

 

As for your apologies not very convincing if in the same post you tell us to shut our mouths. Also saying you are not telling us what we have to do after saying to shut our mouths makes that you have already disproven your own words in the same post.

  I will repeat it. As for my rood conduct i apologies. As i forgive you yours.