Forum Mentality

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Easton
i know phineas (my apologies if the name is spelled wrong) is somewhat of an exception in some people\'s eyes, but to me, his comments on my guild thread were grossly uncalled far.

Phinehas tries hard to be an arrogant jerk, but in the end he is NOT actually harming anyone, and whether or not it was called for doesn\'t really matter.  It\'s what he wanted to say and it is perfectly on topic, from the little bit I read.

And what the hell is this exploit stuff?  It doesn\'t seem appropriate for this thread... (that wasn\'t directed at anyone in particular)

[Pestilence]

Just a little sidetracked with a discusion between me and Karyuu there

Thats what you get if you argue about the examples instead of the topic itself LOL

Phinehas is an exeption in the way that he does his best to do it often, but I think the fact that people actually like him doing it says enough about the mentality on these forums.

[Easton]

Originally posted by Kiern
Phinehas tries hard to be an arrogant jerk, but in the end he is NOT actually harming anyone, and whether or not it was called for doesn\'t really matter.  It\'s what he wanted to say and it is perfectly on topic, from the little bit I read.

in a guild thread, there is no such scenario that i can think of in which calling someone arrogant is \"perfectly on topic\". the point  of guild threads is constructive crticism, which i welcome, but i felt what phinehas said was unneccessarily negative. not to mention useless for me and my guild.

however... i do respect that after i asked him to keep it to constructive criticism he no longer posted.

-Easton Ghent

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Easton
in a guild thread, there is no such scenario that i can think of in which calling someone arrogant is \"perfectly on topic\". the point  of guild threads is constructive crticism, which i welcome, but i felt what phinehas said was unneccessarily negative. not to mention useless for me and my guild.

You are incorrect.  The purpose of the guild forum, as stated by the official description, is DISCUSSION of guilds.  Therefore, since his post was part of a DISCUSSION about your guild, it is on-topic.  No matter how arrogant he is in discussing it.

I find the thought that everything must be incredibly necessary just to be able to post it to be a stupid and idealistic concept, not to mention boring.  But that\'s just my opinion.

Originally posted by Pestilence
but I think the fact that people actually like him doing it says enough about the mentality on these forums.

People like Phinehas?  That\'s news to me.  

Look at that, I just needlessly bashed Phinehas.  May the deterioration of the forums commence!

[zanzibar]

I didn\'t get my axes through cheating.

[Pestilence]

incredibly nececary hmm no but in the guild forum I do think it\'s an on-topic forum where the threads started there are a place where people introduce their guilds.

Don\'t think it\'s very civil to ruin someones introduction by being negative all the time. I mean it isn\'t like someone forced you to read it or forced you to reply.

Have to admit that it isn\'t Phinehas at his worst though.

[ramlambmoo]

/me Enjoys the irony of a thread trying to get people to come togeather and make a better environment does exactly the opposite in under 24 hours...

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Pestilence
Don\'t think it\'s very civil to ruin someones introduction by being negative all the time. I mean it isn\'t like someone forced you to read it or forced you to reply.

Have to admit that it isn\'t Phinehas at his worst though.

Interesting.  Too bad no one is arguing that it was civil.

The same could also be said about you reading his replies, no one is forcing you to read what Phinehas is saying.  Just when you see his name, skip the post completely.  I think thats a bad way to go about things, but if you have the \"no one forced you to reply\" mentality it works both ways.  In any case, you\'re only inflating his ego by talking about him...

And I don\'t understand what you are trying to get across.  Are you saying he should be banned?  His posts deleted?  Or is it just general whining?  He\'s not going to change the way he posts, though if he were to do so there are plenty of others like him who will not.

I find it weird to be arguing for someone else on this topic. :baby:

[Pestilence]

Why all of a sudden is this post about Phinhas? If you read my post I don\'t think you\'ll se anything there about him exept in answering Easton or you.

I was talking in general terms and don\'t believe it\'s whining. Only a cry for people to show their best side on these forums and make it a place people like to be.

Anyhow little harder to ignore someone if you started the post yourself and you are attacked personally.

[Xordan]

I think all of you have forgotten that we said we\'d have a second wipe after we\'ve tested out the loot generator. Whether this will just be a item wipe or another full wipe we haven\'t decided. Calling the loot problems a \'bug\' isn\'t very accurate because we haven\'t finished adding everything in yet.

[Externals]

At Forum Mentality...

- I think in general that people could be nicer on the forums overall but if you think about it, being nicer would just be forcing people to keep their true emotions hidden. (Tell me if anyone understood that)

At The Second Wipe..

- Im not really for wipes but hell, if we need one and there are untested/unfair/or whatever kind of things that would cause the need for one. Then bottom line, we need it even though it may make a few people mad. (Its an alpha staged game, get over it.)

[Pestilence]

Never said I couldn\'t take it. Just saying that people say they want it for game reasons and then you can\'t say get over it it\'s only a test.

If you use game reasons as arguments to say why you are for it I think it\'s justified if other people use gamereasons why they feel it may not be nececary

keep ones true emotions hidden? Well only like you would do in RL. You don\'t just tell everyone you don\'t like this or that about them even if it is true. I am asking for some judgement on your own part in if it really helps to say something or if it\'s just negativity with no real reason exept negativity or if you can say the same without delibaretly bashing the other.

[Karyuu]

Originally posted by Pestilence
keep ones true emotions hidden? Well only like you would do in RL. You don\'t just tell everyone you don\'t like this or that about them even if it is true.

Why the hell not? ;)

[Keyaz]

Originally posted by Pestilence
keep ones true emotions hidden? Well only like you would do in RL. You don\'t just tell everyone you don\'t like this or that about them even if it is true.

I don\'t like this topic, I like Karyuu and marzipan

emotions are meant to be shown, its not a sign of weakness or immaturity, if you bottle them up it messes with your head, you need to release them, or face exploding

[Pestilence]

Why not? Suprised you ask. Becuase you can hurt people. As soon as emotions take a part hurting people emotionally with rash judgements and playing it one the person instead of staying on topic is very possible.

I have seen topics where it\'s obvious people are getting angry  and that isn\'t the right atmosphere for a discussion.

Ever heard of tact Demarthl? Think there are plenty of ways to tell something without bringing an uber load of negativity and still not explode.

Go boxing or something if you need to release your anger don\'t use this forum for it.

PS: asumed you liked Karyuu or that would have been a very strange sig LOL